Chances For Wharton

<p>(or any other Ivy, although top choice is Wharton in UPenn)</p>

<p>Ok guys. I'll appreciate any input. Thank you.</p>

<p>Female
Hispanic
South Florida
Major: Business/Finance</p>

<p>Messed up Freshmen year baddly, got Cs in all regular classes due to the fact that I thought society wanted me to be a failure (poor hispanic) and I wanted to prove them right. Met military sergeant who changed my life. </p>

<p>School offers full IB diploma but didn't take it as I wanted more freedom for my courses.</p>

<p>Straight As all through sophomore, junior, and of course (future) senior year. </p>

<p>9th</p>

<p>JROTC
Business & Technology
Reading
Algebra I Honors
Integrated science
English 1
Art</p>

<p>10th</p>

<p>AP World
AP Spanish Language
Bio Honors
Geometry Honors
Reading 2
English 2 Honors
Multicutural studies</p>

<p>11th</p>

<p>AP Euro
AP US Gov
AP Comparative Gov
AP chemistry
AP Physics
AP Spanish Literature
AP English Language
Pre-Calc Honors</p>

<p>12th</p>

<p>AP Bio
AP Environmental
AP English Literature
AP Calc
-- not sure
-- not sure
-- not sure</p>

<p>Online Classes</p>

<p>AP Microeconomics
AP Macroeconomics
Latin 1
Latin 2
Latin 3
Web Design 1
Web Design 2
Algebra 2 Honors</p>

<p>Classes at Community College</p>

<p>Statistics (counting as AP)
American History (counting as AP)
Public Speaking (counting as Honors)</p>

<p>Classes w/ no school credit</p>

<p>German 1
German 2
German 3
German 4
German 5</p>

<p>ECs:</p>

<p>9th grade: NONE</p>

<p>10th grade: Political Committee</p>

<p>11th: Student Government
Interact
Political Committee
Human Relations
Fellowship of Christian Atheletes
Spanish Honor society</p>

<p>12th: same as Junior year. </p>

<p>Community Hours:</p>

<p>300+ Local Chamber of Commerce
Around school</p>

<p>Awards: (not many)</p>

<p>1st Region in foreign language
3rd Region in foreign language
1st in national web design contest</p>

<p>Hobbies/Interests:</p>

<p>Compete in the Stock Market Challenge. Ranked in the top #10 in the state. Beat the market every time.
Play classical guitar. </p>

<p>That's about it. </p>

<p>My first choice if Wharton because it's just awesome in business.
Any choice there?
Any choice in any other Ivy?</p>

<p>What are my weakness for me to improve on?</p>

<p>Thank you sooooo much.</p>

<p>You have a lot that Wharton would want, but they don't cut much slack for URMs. You'll need a high math SAT and a decent overall rank and scores. I'd say 730ish math with nothing under 700. The freshman year will also still hurt. I would also apply to NYU Stern.</p>

<p>You have about a 1% chance. Freshman year will haunt you forever. ECs are poor, yet classes are pretty good. Wharton is looking for that stand-out feature, what's yours?</p>

<p>let's be realistic... apply to other schools</p>

<p>Thanks for replying. </p>

<p>What are my weaknesses? Stronger ECs? I know my freshmen grades will hurt but I also know there's still time to work in whatever I'm weak on. </p>

<p>And about the stand-out thing, yeah, I don't even think I have one. Probably the closest to that would be the fact that I took so many unnecessary classes outside of school (I love to learn), and maybe the four languages thing. </p>

<p>What do you guys think?</p>

<p>I can't see where you listed your GPA other than C's for Freshmen year, and A's the rest. Nor can I see your SAT score, maybe I'm just looking past them?</p>

<p>In any case, You're a great applicant because you have a lot of interesting quarks about you. Languages, URM, ect, but if Wharton is anything like Ross (and both being top business programs, I'd say their admissions is probably at least similar), you don't have really too much that involves with business or leadership abilities</p>

<p>You do a lot of clubs, and I guess you can say it shows that you're interested, but the way I view Wharton is that you're going to an Ivy B School that's no doubt, #1 in the nation. Why focus on anywhere else? The people in Wharton are supposedly pretty competitive, and they're all so focused, can you really survive in that kind of environment?</p>

<p>My UW GPA: 3.9 W: 4.7</p>

<p>I haven't taken my SAT scores yet as I'm taking it right before my senior year. I'm trying to get the most preparation possible. </p>

<p>I'm taking the SATIIs on World History, Spanish this year. Next year on Chemistry, Physics, and Math (not sure if I or 2 or both)</p>

<p>You're so right about the business things and thank you for constructive criticism. I was thinking the volunteering at Chamber of Commerce would help. I know that's not alot though. </p>

<p>I'm really into business and politics. What else can I do to show my interest in those areas? My school offers the Business Proffesionals of America but I tried and barely anyone showed up in a regular basis and the kids that did weren't barely interested so I quit that. </p>

<p>Is there anything else business-related I can try around the community besides the chamber of commerce?</p>

<p>Or anything else that shows interest in business that you all know of?</p>

<p>Thank you so much guys. :)</p>

<p>This is where your environment kind of plays into a factor. </p>

<p>Most business students that want to do business try and get into the job market. What I did, was I had talked to a family friend over in China, and they gave me an internship for a summer. It wasn't a huge company, but they dealt with international clients, so I had good experience coming out of that. It also showed interest that I actually went overseas, that's a lot of money into something that normally is just another EC on your application.</p>

<p>For you, I'd suggest something that either displays your interest in business, or your leadership abilities. Of course, having both is best, but it might be a bit hard since you seem to be under a huge courseload.</p>

<p>What some of my friends that got into Wharton, Ross, Haas, ect did, were things like start their own business (a guy at my HS a few years back started a small company that made websites, and he basically made websites for all the upcoming events of our towns, stores in our town, ect), another is to possibly volunteer, or spearhead volunteer efforts. A girl that got into Notre Dame, went to Africa for a summer to help volunteer and care for areas down there. </p>

<p>One of my best friends who got into MIT recently made DDR pads out of wood, and tiles, wired them himself, and sold them as a small business since my freshmen year in High School (when DDR was huge back then, which was 4 years ago...) and made a killing. The background story is that I live in a really small town of kids that are really pretty rich, and the most expensive pads that were made of metal generally were around $400, and he undercut their prices by $200 and sold easily 100 pads over the 4 years. </p>

<p>Most of what these kids did was mix what they had passion in and turned it into a small business, or something along those lines.</p>

<p>Hopefully, I've given some ideas...</p>

<p>Apply, you never know what can happen. You certainly can get in, dont listen to these people who say dont apply, they are really being too harsh. AYour freshman year will not haunt you forever.</p>

<p>No one is telling her not to apply, we're just telling her not to get her hopes up.</p>

<p>Ivy's are a reach for anyone, especially a competitive program like Wharton. I'd tell any normal Ivy applicant the same thing I told her. We're just telling her the relaistic truth that she might get rejected, and her freshmen year doesn't help.</p>

<p>Yeah I was thinking about the website thing. So far, I've only made one website for one local business. But that sounds cool only I'm scared cause I have no idea how to get started. But I might look into that. </p>

<p>Thank you so much for all your help. :)</p>

<p>You could make a few "sample" websites of things that you enjoy, things that catch your interest, stuff like that, and then go approach businesses, probably newer ones, and ask if you could manage their website.</p>

<p>Wharton is pretty much alone on it's level. It's a harder admit than Harvard. It's also a lot harder than an average ivy program.</p>

<p>You think Wharton is harder than HYPS (basically)? Do tell why, I'm not sure I'd agree, I'd say it's more focused on specific areas, but not harder.</p>

<p>I don't mean to shed any negative light upon the OP, as inconsistencies are actually pretty common, but I came upon a thread of yours that stated you were a sophomore in October of '06. But from this thread, I got the impression that you were a junior. Care to explain?</p>

<p>BTW, about your chances:</p>

<p>I don't think your freshman scores will matter that much. Colleges love to see upward trends, and the fact that you're a URM will only help. Your story (quite inspirational) has the potential to be stellar essay material, if you take the right approach with it. All in all, I say that you have a great chance at Wharton, especially if you take the opportunity to pursue more business activities. Good luck!</p>

<p>Oh yah, I am a sophomore. The classes for Junior and Senior are just planned. But the ones online and college and stuff I already took. Anyways though, it's so much pressure. Cause I know I can't let myself down and get a B+ you see? I do all these other things and I know that Im going for an A not for a B+ and again, it's so much pressure but hey. </p>

<p>And thank you so much. I hope it happens. :)</p>

<p>OK, that makes sense. Another thing I would recommend is to take the AP tests very, very, very seriously. Oftentimes, GPAs (I'm not saying yours is) are quite inflated, so it's the AP tests that speak for the caliber of the student in question. AP Spanish should be no trouble, and neither should AP World. But study your butt off, because it'll all be worth it when you have the Wharton acceptance letter in your hand. Again, best of luck.</p>

<p>P.S. I'm rooting for you!</p>

<p>I was rejected from Wharton this year and I can say that it's really hard to predict their admissions (probably more so than the other Ivies).</p>

<p>What I think they are looking for is some sort of demonstrated initiative or leadership...rather than very high marks or SATs. They only take 700-800 after all (with 500ish matriculating).</p>

<p>Hispanic female in business is a pretty good hook.</p>

<p>Also, apply to colleges that don't look at freshman scores i.e. Stanford.</p>

<p>I think you have a great chance anywhere due to the fact that you're in the URM pool and also you have a lot of great accomplishments :)</p>