Chances of getting in to Oxford and KCL

<p>Hello CC</p>

<p>I'm an upcoming senior high school student in the US that has been thinking about applying to Universities in the UK. At the top of my list are Oxford (University College) and KCL.</p>

<p>Current scores are</p>

<p>ACT: 35</p>

<p>SAT II
Math II: 800
Physics: 800
Biology: 800
US History: 750
World History: 790
Chinese: 770</p>

<p>AP's
Calculus AB: 5
Physics B: 5
US History: 5
World History: 5
Biology: 4 (Damned curve that year)</p>

<p>Next year, I plan on taking AP Enviro Sci, AP Lit, AP Stats, AP Macroecon, and AP American Gov</p>

<p>If I'm applying for Law in the United Kingdom, what kind of chance do I have to get in to, preferably, Oxford?</p>

<p>With all due respect applying to Oxbridge is a really time consuming and tricky business and you need to be really on top of your game from early on in the process to stand a chance. I helped prep my DS to apply in the fall of 2013. First things first RESEARCH and research the subject you are interested in. Oxford specifically has tons of info on the website, pretty much all you need in order to put in a good application. But you need to get on this NOW!. You cant leave it even to the fall to prep a good application.</p>

<p>For starters a minimum of 700 each on the SAT is required, the higher the better, you need to get a UCAS application started, your AP’s are helpful but that’s not what will get you admitted. Be aware there are very few places at each college for international students and the competition is REALLY tough, like for my sons subject and college there was 1 place available to international students and he didn’t get even an interview!. He took the TSA test which is required for some subjects, if you have to take that or any admissions test you need to prep for it and prep really well, my DS scored high on the TSA over 70 but was still not even offered an interview and he is a dual UK/US student.</p>

<p>For what its worth, apply, BUT get on it now and do your research, if you want to PM please do and I will try to answer any Q’s</p>

<p>I agree with @Englishman‌. Oxbridge is extremely difficult to get into and it is a totally different (and in my biased opinion, a much harder and more strenuous) process to HYPMS and other top us school admissions. And because you’re interested in reading law, which along with medicine are probably the hardest to get into, it is especially more so. And research is very, very important and you really need to be absolutely on top of your game. </p>

<p>First you’ll need to sit your LNAT to get into Law at most Russell Group universities and sittings begin 1 September and you’ll need to sit sometime before early-mid October, I believe, if you wish to apply for Oxbridge and December/January for any other university. There’s 42 multiple choice and an essay (which is marked by the universities) and you’ll get a score out of 42 (which they won’t tell you until January/February, but all your Universities will know almost immediately after you take the test). The average score has fluctuated between 18-20 for most years. A passing score is considered good and any score above 30 is really good. Highest of the high scores generally range about 37-40 and 42/42 is basically impossible. Obviously you’ll need a really good score to get into Oxbridge (and even KCL), but don’t be too discouraged. Getting a low score doesn’t automatically rule you out; people do get into Oxbridge after scoring 19/42 on the LNAT, but most of the people I know who’ve gotten in have scored in the 25+ range. Generally a low 20 will get you an interview, but the standard for internationals is higher. However, LNAT is probably one of the most important parts of your application and you’ll definitely need to do a lot of studying and prepping. </p>

<p>Looking at your test scores, they seem fine and your SAT subjects and AP scores seem to cover enough relevant areas. However, I would strongly recommend you to take Calculus BC this year because Calculus AB isn’t deep enough as far as Oxbridge and other top unis are concerned. And maths is important for Law because it develops logical reasoning and whatnot so universities like it. Also make sure you study hard in your AP classes and get predicted marks of 5, at least in the important AP classes such as econ and lit, because Oxford isn’t going to accept 4’s. </p>

<p>And basically research, research, research. The process in the UK is highly academic, much more so than the States and even Canada (which already is much more so that the states). They want people that are solely focused on your subject and dedicated to it and excited to study it and they want the top-notch marks as well to back you up. And top-notch in Oxbridge’s case means very, very top-notch. And you do want to hurry, the deadline is 15 October so it is coming up fast and you still need to get a lot done. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or stuff like that and I’ll do my best to help. I don’t bite :smiley: Good Luck!</p>

<p>Fwiw, unless you have the right to work in the UK and plan on staying there I would recommend applying to whatever humanities course sounds interesting to you (3 years unless you do a language), and do law school in the US. More fun and easier to get sorted to practice when you get back to the US. Law at Oxford is much more theoretically focused than in the US, so as Harrovian suggests, make sure you know what you are actually applying to do. Oxford History + Stanford Law = 6 years, 2 amazing experiences & unlimited opportunities!</p>

<p>I don’t know much about studying law (anywhere), but if your eventual goal is to be a lawyer in the US, collegemom3717 seems right; go to law school in the US. </p>

<p>Don’t put hopes too high, but I will say that, IMO, most of what Englishman and Harrovian said isn’t true. The UCAS app is much more simple than the common app, for starters. And admission to Oxford isn’t more difficult than elite US universities, if you are serious about and advanced in your subject. For example, I looked at their physics admissions test and interview questions and they seemed easy. I am applying to Oxford, Harvard, Princeton, MIT, and Caltech, and I think Oxford (along with Caltech and MIT) are the most likely for me to get in, if anywhere</p>

<p>@userofcc With respect, I wish you luck, having just gone through UCAS (UCAS app is the easy bit) for Oxford and CA4 here in the US for my DS14, I would restate, Oxford is far far harder to apply to and be admitted than ANY US College or University, from experience my DS14 is attending a NESCAC LAC, having been rejected at Oxford, which is my alma mater!</p>