<p>I have always wanted to go to UF ever since I was in 7th grade, now I'm a junior and I'm really scared because my gpa is horrible, can you guys see if I have a good chance?
I have a 3.0 unweighted and will get a 3.66 UF gpa for freshman through junior year. My SAT is somewhere from a 710 - 730 for critical reading and an 800 for math and I don't know if UF counts it but a 750 in writing. I'm in a lot of clubs and have a leadership position in 4-5 of them. I also have a sibling who goes there. I'm not sure if this affects my chances but I'm Asian. I've always wanted to go there and would be really happy if I get accepted but if I don't have a chance I want to know now so I can prepare myself for not going there. And also could you guys chance me in comparison to the kids who got in recently to see if I have a fair chance now, because i heard that there's way more competition. Also i'm planning on applying for the summer term. Thanks</p>
<p>3.66 is pretty bad. Its over a whole grade level lower from the average 4.71. You SAT appears to be above average but I honestly don’t think UF considers SAT as much. There are many students above 2200 SAT who fail, which surprises me because I’ve gotten around 1890. I think UF GPA and ECs are most important. Your ECs are good. I should ask:
How many APs or college level courses did you take so far?</p>
<p>I’m assuming you have another HS year left. If you do, you’d need lots of AP and straight A’s to bump the GPA because that’s what’s holding you back, I’m afraid.</p>
<p>I took 2 AP’s so far in 9th and tenth grade and am taking 7 this year and will take 7 next year. But I think even if I do well next year it won’t matter because I don’t think UF looks at senior year, is there anything else I can do, I really want to get in, I might be able to get it up to a 3.7 weighted but I’m not sure I can. Also I’m in IB.</p>
<p>If the best you can achieve by your senior year is a UFL weighed GPA of 3.7, then your chances at acceptance are minimal at best.</p>
<p>It’d appear so. One of my old friends begun senor year with a 3.0. Even with 6 APs and 1 honor and 2 DE classes (I think he got straight A’s and 2 B’s, I’ll ask him later) and he got 3.4ish. He didn’t get into UF, but did in FSU. From now on, I mean UF GPA.</p>
<p>Point is, I’m afraid your chances are kinda out of favor. You’d have to strain much more since a 3.56 is much closer to 3.7 and its really hard to get boosts, even with A’s.</p>
<p>If you are completely determined, all APs plus some additional DE (if possible) and get straight A’s. I think doing this will get you very near 3.8.</p>
<p>Alas, 3.8 is still below average, but you’d definitely be considered more that 3.56 which I think may not even be looked at.</p>
<p>Hope you can understand.</p>
<p>GPA is pretty low</p>
<p>Your scores will be higher than most kids who apply. That makes up for your GPA a bit. </p>
<p>Good ECs</p>
<p>Do well on your essays. I have seen that essays sometimes make or break an applicant. Your GPA may be low, but that does not mean you won’t get in. </p>
<p>Best of luck</p>
<p>@CORNANDTOOTHPICK: The average UF GPA is a 4.2, please stop misinforming people. </p>
<p>@TC: Your UF GPA is low…and that’s what UF looks at the most.</p>
<p>When I saw the stats of the applicants for last year it said that 27% of the people who applied with a 3.7-3.9 gpa got accepted, I’m thinking maybe those 27% of the people had high SAT scores and good ec’s, also, I know that it’s not a fact, but would it be better if I applied for IA?</p>
<p>Well, I’m going to give you a meaty, epic response with much juices, and NO…it’s not because I don’t want to study for calc 3, I so didnt say that. Lol, well anyways, just bear with me, this is how I procrastinate/get distracted:</p>
<p>Applying to IA doesn’t affect your chances at all, that’s a hugeeeeeee misconception. Also I’d disagree with gatorphysics. Now im going to give you a huge explanation because the explanation wont be just for you, but to those reading ya know:</p>
<p>I know people in IA right now, they aren’t that restricted at all. The reason for limited majors is because majors are normally done fall/spring. For IA, uf is now having majors be fully offered throughout spring/summer, hence on a year round schedule. The list went from like 10 majors to 30 or so now or something. The most popular majors are there and the list continues to expand. The program is also for prospective students so if you want to do it, make sure your major is in the program and that the major is what you FULLY want to the max. The 6 month wait isn’t bad at all. I know some of the kids who were able to mature more before starting college, doing other things they may not have been able to had they started in the fall. There’s something called like fall connection, where you take two classes in the fall online, and IA students can study abroad before they start. Something no other uf student can do. The summer used to be a term where not many courses were offered but because of IA, UF (for the last few years) has been working to get the summer to offer as many classes as fall/spring. The reason most majors aren’t offered yet is because of some approval stuff. Otherwise, again, the list keeps growing. The restrictions are this: no physical classes and no physical housing on campus in the fall, and ONLY the fall. On campus housing is allowed for the rest of the year and IA students are allowed to apply for honors. Furthermore, I know someone who is doing IA and is in a frat. For this fall, they can live in the frat house, do all frat events, and do all uf events including football attendance, without having to worry about a single class. That’s something, well, no other uf students can do. Just for football alone, uf students need to be full time to pick up tickets and go to the games. IA students don’t need to be enrolled at all. Now I’m a huge sports fan, so it kinda sucks having to worry about class on Monday after I go to a football game so to not worry about class after a football game or event… that’s a luxury IA students have.</p>
<p>There’s a lot of misconceptions and discrepancies surrounding IA. But go on their official website. Apply ONLY if you’re interested. Its not easier or harder to get into uf if you apply to IA, there is no difference. This is a program meant for prospective students willing to go outside the box. It focuses on small college experience at a big university with an exclusive minor, perks of its own, and a focus on internships, entrepreneurship, and etc. I know a lot about the program because I’ve followed the development of it and know people in it. Also, some people say “well you graduate a semester or so later than the rest of your class of 2016” but honestly, who cares. Just my opinion but a lot of people will end up graduating in 3 years or less or will go on to be super seniors. The mentality of “OHHH I want to graduate with my class so I won’t do IA” is plain silly because that’s not proper decision making. </p>
<p>If you want to know the basics, the cons for IA are no physical fall classes and no physical fall housing. However, of course those bring about new perks like going to football games and using campus resources/doing fraternity activities without having to be enrolled at all. Fall involvement is easier and interning then will be better; the primary pros are the innovation minor, guest lectures, small college experience, and special attention to get so to speak. I know the people in IA all know each other so they didnt come to uf lost, confused, or lonely. When I came I was completely lost and had to make new friends to fit in; it would’ve been cool to already know my peers tbh. Regardless, this is a unique program where the fall restrictions can cause “social inconveniences” so to speak. The program makes up these inconveniences with “academic conveniences” and maybe even some “unique social conveniences,” depending how you look at it. Research the program and if you’re prospective, are comfortable/like the calendar, and are interested, go ahead and apply. The program has a wealth of opportunities no other student gets; that and if one was in the honors program as well as IA, they get to enjoy the best of the best academics at uf. Really, the main thing to ensure is if you’re happy with the calendar or not. The program is excellent, the calendar is dependent on the individual. </p>
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<p>So apply for what you want. REMEMBER that uf is holistic. You’re GPA is not a nightmare, so relax, it’s decent. Given you have every part of your app done well, you should have a solid chance. Work hard on the essay and BE SMART when making your decisions. Treat the application as a job interview. Select the term you want and if you want to pick IA, please pick it because you WANT IT. If you want my opinion, I would’ve applied if I had the option, it’s unique, special, and to be a member of it is to be a part of something huge at uf; it’s an opportunity to help build something new and cool, and while we talk about leadership and all, the true leaders of the world are those who are willing to do new things or try something different, just like the current IA students. However, I cannot stress enough, that if you truly do not want it, DO NOT apply. Get rid of that mentality that it’ll make your chances easier because I’m telling you right now, straight up fact: it will have ZERO bearing on whether your get rejected or accepted. </p>
<p>By the ways you mentioned you had a sibling at uf right? The legacy can help. </p>
<p>Now I’m off to study a bit of calc 3. I wonder why it’s so coincidental that I have the urge to post a lot on forums whenever study time comes. <em>sigh</em></p>
<p>@Sabertooth First of all, that post was epic, and I regret saying TL;DR. But good luck on them vectors and integrals.</p>
<p>Any who, IA should only be for those who want it. IA students have very little choices in majors and classes (as of now). And while I agree that majors are adding into the program, there’s a reason why : they are relatively short termed. There are a lot of CLAS majors. There are a few Engineering majors (Note that it is the relatively shorter Industrial Engineering as compared to Mechanical, per say). My point is that its an option for those whose majors are listed. Under circumstances, some STEM majors will not be available because it is strict and long termed. While some classes do exist in the Summer, they are minimal for advancements or are harder courses to spread in the summer.</p>
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<p>One piece of evidence that I think is brutal of UF is the Math degree. There are two, a BA and a BS. And BS > BA (Evidence on Degree Audit or general requirement for Grad School in Mathematics).</p>
<p>The only reason why a IA student can never get a BS is because of one class (Advanced Calculus I) that the UF Math Department only hosts on Fall. This leaves the IA student with only an option for BA and not BS.</p>
<p>Certainly the UF Math Department can arrange a single class in Spring? But they do not. They even offer the required sequel (Advanced Calculus II) in the Spring.</p>
<p>I know this part my sound very speculative, but I do think on behalf of this case, UF does have some preference to Non-IA students.</p>
<p>But do not worry, UF wouldn’t do that would they? :)</p>
<p>Interesting, non math / non physics majors now offering their unbiased opinion on scienece courses at UFL…
Suggestion-
If your educational goal is to ultimately attend grad school in either math / physics at a tier 1 grad school, then allow me to provide you with the following information…
If by the end of your first academic calender year, you have not passed in the following, then seek another career. General Physics A * B, Calculus 1<em>2</em>3 & differential equations, Mechanics, Intermediate & thermal.</p>
<p>@corn:Mmmm I’d disagree when you say choice in classes are minimal. Given whatever major is included in the IA program, then the classes necessary to complete the degree as well as other class variations are included. However you are right, regarding your advance calculus example. However all that means is uf hasn’t put a BS degree mathematics program in IA…YET. You could very easily say uf has priority to IA students in the sense they don’t need to be enrolled in fall to pickup football tickets yet non-IA do. Fact is, it’s not a priority game with your example, but rather a means where uf has yet to include another advanced calculus course for another term. You can’t snap your fingers and have all fall only classes offered in spring/summer and etc. etc. It takes time because its a transition to a 12-month calendar. Hence, as more majors get added to IA, you will start to see classes offered only in fall for certain majors now offered in spring/summer, resulting in the university being active year round as opposed to fall/spring. I will say this, to be an IA student today, you need to be prospective and that’s why uf wants to recruit prospective students into IA, not just any random student. If you’re prospective about a major included in IA or are prospective in several majors all offered in IA, go ahead and apply to the program because you’ll get the uf education in conjunction with many perks and academic benefits no other uf student gets. However, if you have no idea what you want to do in your life, go do regular so you can have all the majors to explore and discover. Ill expand on all this more so in the future if you guys want.</p>
<p>Actually, ill add one last tidbit before I log off or close the browser, but what’s basically being established by you @corn and @gatorphysics, is that IA doesn’t have all available majors, and then you’re explaining why/how. This information has indeed been established in the past. Also. Gatorphysics, I do believe some of the people I know in IA can take and are taking physics. The requirements at all ends for the majors in IA are the exact same in IA as they are regular. To be more simple, to get a degree through IA is to do all of the classes a non-IA economics student would take in order to get the degree. So as I said before, if the major or several majors are offered in IA, and the one who is interested is prospective about them, then go do IA, it’ll be very rewarding and unique. But if one seeks to be explorative, even though IA has the most popular majors at the moment, still do regular to be able to explore. Around 10-20 years from now, the university is expected to be running on a 12-month calendar, so all majors will be in IA as they are non-IA and the university will be active year long. If UF makes it to that goal, they just advanced higher education and we might see other schools trying to emulate a spring/summer schedule of sorts themselves. Nation wide, more people can go to college, and if you wanna get philosophical a bit, then more college educated people=stronger society. </p>
<p>Last note, I wanna go back on the preference thing corn brought up. Here’s the thing, UF does not have a certain preference over one group students against others. If that was the case, then the university is being unfair and treating a group of students at non-equal standards compared to other students. That’s immoral and can remove credibility from the university. What UF does is not a preference thing but, if they take something away from a group of students, they have something to give back in its place. That’s how the students are still treated equally. Different, but still equal. And whether that difference is good or bad, is completely up to the individuals opinion. Uf in a way, treats honors students differently in the sense that honor students have many more requirements to fulfill before graduation. In a way, it looks like uf has priority to regulars over honors. Why would they force honor students to do these extra requirements? Fact is, it’s no priority game. It’s just uf, in return for putting more burden on honor students, thus taking away say…some social time…, uf will give them back something, that something being a seal on graduation. Uf doesn’t have priority on one group over another or anything, they can’t exactly do that. And I’ll keep it simple to explain why it’d make them look bad and non credible if they did such a thing: it’s like a parent favoring one child over another. As a result, the two children get competitive, more likely to get jealous of each other and the scene for chaos is set. </p>
<p>Okay, I’ll expand in the future if requested, but I’d rather it be a PM or new thread since this thread is going off topic. New thread is preferable because PMs aren’t public. Take care you guys! I’m off to go pull my hair out over this ridiculous calc. I would love if chui taught calc 3, she was great for 2…(on that note, PM me any tips or study tools for calc 3 if you guys can. Thanks!)</p>
<p>Statistics Correction: </p>
<p>@GatorPhysics: All that would be true IF we didn’t know what the average is. However, we do. The freshman profile of UF ([University</a> of Florida - Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/ugrad/frprofile.html]University”>Freshman - How To Apply - University of Florida)) doesn’t give the Q1-Q3, it gives the 25th percentile- 75th percentile for SAT scores, GPA, and ACT. We know this because at the bottom of the “Freshman Profile” link, UF clearly indicates that the statistics presented are for the “Middle 50% of the Class.”</p>
<p>-Middle 50% of the Class
-Middle 50%
-25%-75%</p>
<p>Therefore, we do know the average. That average is a 1950 (rounded from 1945) SAT and a 4.2 UF GPA. </p>
<p>If one were to assume the admissions graph to be Normally Distributed, knowing the mean and 25th-75th percentile numbers is actually enough to calculate one’s exact percentage among other UF students using Z-scores.</p>
<p>^^^
But, I got admitted with a 1610 SAT (very high math).
Are you sure?</p>
<p>Dear ilovethe47.</p>
<p>Did you know there are people that have been getting into and are still getting into uf with…scores LESS than 1600!? Even less than 1500? </p>
<p>Well, just here to let you know it happens and is happening. It’s happened before, happens now. There even some rejected from FSU that get into uf. Holistic admissions. Holistic is the key word…</p>
<p>Kind of hate that. Some of the brightest kids I knew in my days at HS were rejected by people who clearly didn’t deserve it (by comparison). I think its not very common, but it nonetheless happens.</p>
<p>Its definitely not the same when going to the upper tier schools, that’s for sure.</p>