Chances of me getting? Provide improvements

Hi There,

I am a Junior from a magnet school. I was just wondering if you could let me know the likelihood of getting into UNC-Chapel Hill as an in-state applicant with these stats

SAT: Will be taking in March 2020. What SAT score range will increase my chances of getting into UNC - Chapel Hill?
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.72,
Weighted GPA: 4.23/5
what Weighted and Unweighted GPA range will increase my chances of getting into UNC - Chapel Hill?
Rank : 155/660
AP (place score in parenthesis):
AP Calculus AB/BC: 4 - AB subscore: 4
AP World History: 4
AP Physics One: 2
AP Environmental Science: 4

As a Junior, I’m taking 7 AP classes (Psych, Chem, Calculus 3/Differential Equations, Macroeconomics, AP English Language and AP US History)

I would like to know what all I should be doing to improve my application? e.g Gov school, Summer venture etc?

Does your school use Naviance? If so, look at what GPAs from your school typically are that get in. I have heard that Chapel Hill typically pulls from the top 10%, which you are currently well out of. That being said, my daughter moved up quite a bit from sophomore EOY rankings and junior EOY rankings after taking almost all APs and getting As and with all of your APs, you could do the same. For SAT scores, aim for as high as you can. Good luck!

What county are you from? It’ll be a lot different if you’re from Wake than if you are from Chatham. Your stats are fine (other than the 2 AP score). You’d need a 1470 or above in order to be in the top 25% of applicants, with a 750 on math and a 720 on reading. If you really want to increase your chances, take a subject test as well (that you know you’ll do well on). I think Gov school is out of the question if you haven’t applied yet, since applications were due a while ago. (P.S. are you from Enloe? Sounds like it lol)

@izrk02 I am located in Wake County and do plan on taking 2 subject tests. I’m assuming that by being based here it lowers my chances? And I’d prefer not to disclose my school for privacy reasons.

@UNCCH21 Sorry about the hs thing, I completely understand not wanting to disclose that. I think your chances are good at UNC if you get at least a 1370 (average score). Anything above a 1470 would make it a solid match. Being from Wake might make it harder, but depending on the school there’s always around 20-50 applicants that get accepted.

Your class rank indicates you in top 23%…I would try to get as close to top 10% as possible. It matter’s at unc. 45% were in top 10 students and almost 80% were in top 10%.

@fancypants2019 To be fair to OP, those stats are for overall applicants, not just in state. For in-state, it’s slightly less competitive (they accept around 80% of in-state). OP is also from Wake County, which is notorious for being competitive (depending on the school, the gpa cutoff for top 25% is a 4.3). While being in the top 10% will obviously help, most top 10% acceptances are from OOS. There are many “average” students from in-state who get in.

I’ll take a different angle here - first yes do some test prep for ACT/SAT to get the best score you can. Otherwise - take classes that interest you and challenge you. Do your best work in them but explore things outside your comfort zone and don’t be afraid to experience new things. Have a curious mind, even if that curiosity might result in a B or otherwise not give you the best statistical chance of having the highest GPA possible. Then talk about that journey and your curiosity, what you’ve learned about yourself and your place in it, even if some of what you learned is confusing, or unsettling, or enlightening, or resulting in a form of “failure”, in your essay.

Apply to a range of schools, including UNC if that is your dream, be honest and transparent in the process, and I promise you things will work out for you regardless of where you go to college. Having a curious mind, challenging yourself to explore and grow, will carry you farther than any particular diploma.

Best of luck to you OP!

@izrk02 The class comprises 80% from North Carolina but your statement that most of the top 10% students are from out of state is just not true. Basic math tells you its not true if a class of 4500 where 80% are in the top 10% while 80% of the class is in-state. As a student at UNC, I have met very few “average” people. Almost everyone was the top 10-15% in their class and are extremely bright. Yes it is slight easier to get in via in-state but it is still highly competitive and you need GREAT grades and scores to get in.

@fancypants2019 I’m quite aware of the math. But what I was referring to was the simple fact that it is much harder to get in as an OOS than IS. It’s more likely that one of the top 10% students is from OOS, especially considering the demographics of NC. If you look at Wake and Mecklenburg (two of the largest counties by population and where OP is from), it’s more likely that students are going to be from the top 10%. But students from counties less competitive and populated are more likely to be in the Top 25%. GPA also matters. A GPA in the top 10% in Boone would likely be in the top 50% in Raleigh (especially considering some high schools in the area). Since OOS admissions are so competitive, its almost on an ivy league level for those not IS, leading more top 10% applicants to apply and be admitted. It’s not just about the stats of admission, but the demographics they represent.

To be clear about acceptance rates, per the class profile entering the fall of 2018, the in state acceptance rate was 41%. The out of state rate was 13% and the overall rate was just under 22% for the 47,000 applicants.

OOS students make up approximately 20% of the enrolled incoming class, which was approximately 1,025 of the 2018 total of 5,121 (which includes transfer students). Even if ALL OOS are in the top 10% of their classes, that leaves about 2,970 top 10% students being in state, or 58% of the total incoming class. Not sure what that proves other than there are a bunch of smart kids.