Chances of transfer to Columbia or other privates

Transfer Students
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<p>Hi,
I was wanting to know my chances of getting into a few privates. My grades in high school were absolutely awful.....close to say 2.0 GPA. However in my junior college in New Jersey, my current GPA is 3.66-3.70 and my SAT score is about 1220. My major is "Economics and Mathematics". I have a few extra curriculars in getting a volunteer award for the year, a scholarship for the world affairs council and I write for this one political newspaper in which articles are written by students of colleges all across the USA.</p>

<p>I also have done research for my economics professor and my political science professor. Assuming I can write a good personal statement and get good recommendations, do you think I have a chance at a University liek Columbia or Stanford. Feel free to give your honest view. The truth never hurts.</p>

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<p>My friend had was in a similar situation, horrible high school decent SAT. He had a 4.0 at a CC. Applyed to stanford and was rejected. hope this helps!</p>

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<p>Columbia's an outside shot; they're pretty holistic in evaluating their applicants. Keep in mind that it's still a super-reach. </p>

<p>HYPS is pretty much a no go.</p>

<p>Maybe if you give more information on what kind of environment you want, we can help you come up with a list of some more likely schools.</p>

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<p>Well I come from Frankfurt, Germany and am used to what the Americans say as "Big City" life. I also am an economics/mathematics major and know that NYC is the best place to study economics. So any suggestions are welcome!</p>

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<p>I am someone who usually doesn't believe in absolutes. However, to be honest I think your chances at Columbia or Stanford are slim to none. Most top-tier schools like that want to see candidates with at least 700 on each portion of the SAT and a GPA of at least 3.8 if they're not already from a top school. You could still get into some very solid privates, though. Look at schools for which your SAT falls within their 25-75% range. Maybe you would like a liberal arts college, where a larger % of the student body is given good opportunities than at a University.</p>

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<p>how realistically important is the SAT for ppl wanting to transfer to enter as sophmores. They say it doesn't matter as much, but for some reason, I still think it is rather important. What is the cut off?</p>

<p>1300, 1350, 1400, 1450</p>

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<p>Columbia: Reject Pile
Stanford: Ditto. + They'll laugh when they see your extracurriculars and SAT scores...</p>

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Columbia: Reject Pile
Stanford: Ditto. + They'll laugh when they see your extracurriculars and SAT scores...

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<p>You would be surprised: Kipling was admitted as a junior transfer in Harvard with a 2.x GPA in high school, and I was admitted into Georgetown as a sophomore transfer with a 2.4.</p>

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They say it doesn't matter as much, but for some reason, I still think it is rather important.

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<p>It depends on the university; however, you can be sure that any school in the Top 10 will take seriously the SAT score of a sophomore transfer.</p>

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<p>thank G-D, that is probably the best part of my application</p>

<p>a 1450 will cut it i hope, considering Penn said the average SAT for a transfer is a 1350</p>

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<p>May I ask how you got into G-town with a 2.4 GPA - as its a competative school. Ie. what else did you have going for you, which made your application compelling.</p>

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<p>"You would be surprised: Kipling was admitted as a junior transfer in Harvard with a 2.x GPA in high school, and I was admitted into Georgetown as a sophomore transfer with a 2.4."</p>

<p>These are the exceptions: not the general trend.</p>

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These are the exceptions: not the general trend.

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<p>Thank you for the sound corroboration... or wait... there was none.</p>

<p>In many cases, top tier universities do not hesitate in accepting junior tranfers who had poor high school performance. I was lucky I made it in the sophomore pool.</p>

<p>And if I am not mistaken, Kipling was also accepted at Rice, Brown, and Cornell. Hardly an 'exception to the rule'.</p>

<p>This is not to encourage students to earn low GPAs in high school; however, transferring as a junior gives an opportunity to those students who have significantly altered their lifestyle.</p>

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May I ask how you got into G-town with a 2.4 GPA - as its a competative school. Ie. what else did you have going for you, which made your application compelling.

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<p>1) College GPA: 3.91 with 36 credits
2) SAT: 1490 (800v690m)
3) An excess of ECs
4) Good recommendations
5) Good reasons</p>

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<p>Wow I love how you generalized a personal experience into a fact.</p>

<p>Kudos!</p>

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Wow I love how you generalized a personal experience into a fact.

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<p>I did no such thing:</p>

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In many cases, top tier universities do not hesitate in accepting junior tranfers who had poor high school performance. I was lucky I made it in the sophomore pool.

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<p>Your reading skills are poor. Let us hope your 'exceptional writing skills' can compensate;)</p>

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And if I am not mistaken, Kipling was also accepted at Rice, Brown, and Cornell. Hardly an 'exception to the rule'.

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<p>Remember, I am nspeds, not Kipling.</p>

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<p>nspeds,</p>

<p>I love you ad hominem as well.</p>

<p>Your arguments are flawless.</p>

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<p>Lets not get into a pseudo-logic debate.</p>

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<p>"Lets not get into a pseudo-logic debate."</p>

<p>Because we would be taking away from your talent, huh.</p>

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I love you ad hominem as well.

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<p>It was not an ad hominem attack, since I was not drawing a conclusion from your poor character.</p>

<p>Additionally:</p>

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Thank you for the sound corroboration... or wait... there was none.

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<p>Lacking evidence is deleterious to good argument; one-line truisms will not suffice on this forum.</p>

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<p>Lets see who gets into the better schools Nspeds...</p>

<p>My stats speak for themselves...</p>