Chances PLZ PLZ PLZ ZOMG

<p>Tell me my chances for all the med school programs (Brown PLME, Northwestern HPME, Rice/Baylor, Case PPSP, etc.) I've been perusing this forum for awhile now and I've decided to see what kind of input you guys have for me. I'll appreciate all of your opinions, thanks!</p>

<p>SAT Reasoning Test: 2390
SAT Subject Tests: Math Level 2 800; Chemistry 790; Biology M 800; Spanish 770; Literature 780
GPA: 4.7 W, 4.0 UW
Extracurriculars: Hospital Volunteer 900 Hours; 50 hours Cancer Research at Stanford University over one summer; California High School Speech Association Semifinalist in Lincoln Douglas Debate; Superior Distinction in National Forensic League; 4 years of speech and debate; 11 years of piano; received National Guild of Piano Teachers High School Diploma; Volunteered with Doctors Without Borders in Myanmar over last summer for 4 weeks; National Merit Semifinalist
Ethnicity/Nationality: African American w00t</p>

<p>My mom went to Harvard and my dad went to Duke if that makes any difference. They also contribute financially to their respective alma maters.</p>

<p>do you even have to ask?</p>

<p>Well, I'd say Jesus has returned, albeit 6 years late. Maybe that's a reason colleges will reject you.</p>

<p>I also want to note that my family and I had to move down here to Atlanta at the beginning of this school year because my grandparents down here are having health problems. I love my grandparents, but this has been inconvenient for my grades because of the high school transition (esp. senior year too!!) so I have a few B's for the quarter transcript. Will this affect me negatively? I plan to mention this in the "additional info" section of the application just in case.</p>

<p>...or maybe they'd reject you b/c you have too many volunteer hours...i don't know how you pulled it off, but uhh you just took away a spot from everybody else that's applying to the same schools you are.</p>

<p>Unless you have visited one of those four medical schools and really like it there, I would strongly recommend attending Harvard or Duke over any of the four programs you mentioned - helps retain flexibility. The guaranteed admission to medical school, in your case, is effectively present anyway.</p>

<p>PS: LD is fun, isn't it?</p>

<p>There was a post that I now can't see asking about my LD background. Yes, I was on the national circuit, although by my own standards I performed quite poorly, especially at the national championship and the TOC.</p>

<p>Have you applied to each? If not you might be too late for some. I believe that the cut off for Rice for Interim decision is Dec 1.</p>

<p>I've already done the Brown PLME application and am about to do the others. I just want to know my chances at these highly competitive programs. I've seen other people on this forum with really high stats-is everyone who applies really like that?</p>

<p>clearly you'll get in somewhere, you have an opportunity to go to almost any school in the nation...is a med program your first preference?</p>

<p>..You can easily get into harvard with those scores/URM status</p>

<p>haha consider urself accepted buddy</p>

<p>Please, for my sake, don't apply.</p>

<p>Well, I think this person would be cheating herself out of opportunities by goign to a med program. This person could be a 1st tier institution rather than the 2nd tier ones of most progs.</p>

<p>I disagree with most of your concerns that I would be better served going to a top undergrad school. My achievements in high school are not conducive to getting into med school the old way. I can't guarantee that I will replicate the same kind of stuff I've done for the past 4 years during my undergrad years, nor do I want to. I think I'll be perfectly happy getting a guaranteed spot in med school.</p>

<p>A 2390 is a good sign for your standardized test-taking prowess. Your race is an asset to you. A 4.0 -- not a 3.9, not a 3.95, but a 4.0 -- indicates that you have not yet hit your limits.</p>

<p>Your other extracurriculars I understand not wanting to repeat -- but please tell me you plan to and want to continue your research and clinical service, because (let's face it) your career as a doctor will comprise of nothing but clinical service.</p>

<p>Should you choose to accept your spot -- and you should notice that I am intentionally speaking as if it has already been awarded to you -- then certainly I think Baylor and WUSTL are both top-notch medical schools. Brown and Northwestern, too, are both fine enough undergraduate schools that your options afterwards should still be preserved.</p>

<p>If you are looking to simply accept your guaranteed spot and actually attend that medical school, however, I would hesitate to endorse any program other than Baylor or WUSTL -- and those only if you know you fit in well with the culture of the medical school. Certainly, I think any discussion of Brown should be done away with.</p>

<p>Things change over the years. You will change over the years to come. You may find that you love cities. That you dislike traffic. That the love of your life is committed to attending law school in Austin. That you really want to be a part of the theater culture in New York.</p>

<p>And in four years, the medical schools themselves may have changed radically. In (I believe) just three years, Baylor Med has risen from #16 to #10. Penn Med, I believe, has shot into the top ten just recently and is now considered #3. You may find that a top-notch school has suddenly become embroiled in conflict with its local community over the behavior of its sports teams, possibly affecting its ability to recruit minority students. I would find it a shame if you accepted a spot at an institution -- however fine it may be -- that effectively restricted your options, no matter how appealing the guarantee may seem now.</p>

<p>Education matters, especially when it comes to your medical school education. Some schools train you well. Some schools train you superbly. These things are not predictable from the rankings -- and certainly not from rankings three years in advance!</p>

<p>I had a younger brother who was making this decision two years ago. I gave him the same advice I am giving you now: the guarantee is not worth much when you know you're a strong enough candidate that you'll make it anyway. The best preparation you can find to keep open as many options as you can is worth it all.</p>

<p>But this thread was not meant for me to lecture you. I apologize for taking that liberty.</p>

<p>Your chances are superb. Should some freak accident happen -- say, they confuse your application with somebody much less qualified -- then your chances four years from now will still be superb.</p>

<p>Best of luck, and I look forward to hearing about your continued accomplishments as you move forward with your medical education.</p>

<p>agree wholeheartedly with bluedevilmike ^^^
you've got the potential to go anywhere you want...make sure you understand that before you make your final decision.</p>

<p>i love the title of this thread. are you actually worried about getting in? for ruhl, dont apply to the ones im applying to mmk? hahaha jk, i mean....no i am not kidding actually. :-/</p>

<p>Thanks a lot bluedevilmike for you input, I will definitely think about it.</p>

<p>BlueDevilMike is absolutely right.</p>

<p>I worked very hard in high school, and was accepted to several programs. However, I chose not to attend. I'm now enjoying Dartmouth far more than I would have a program school. I did well enough on my MCAT, and I maintained a high GPA. It's defnitely worth it.</p>