<p>Of course you are going to find some really smart kids at PSU. That is a given. Heck, you'll find some reallly smart and dedicated kids at Arizona State Uni that could have gone to some ivy. I was just referring to the general population at PSU. I don't care what anyone says but the fact is a large number of students at PSU are average, based on my experience. I'm not having a dig at anyone or saying that just because you go to PSU you are dumb. Quite a few of my friends were in-state kids that got into better schools like UM and UVA but chose Penn State because they were engineering majors and PSU was the chepeast and best option.</p>
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<p>I completely agree with this statement. You have all the resources at your disposal and you can work your butt off, but you'll be left alone feeling like an outcast. People would rather play beer pong on a saturday afternoon rather than prepare for the midterm coming up next week.</p>
<p>tomatoking - good luck to you - you have a good shot if you bring your score up . Lots of kids love PSU.
Sax, welcome back. Glad to hear that your son is doing so well.
MN - my son worked his butt off the past year - and did very well. He is not an outcast. Most of his friends are in the same boat. Something about you and PSU just didn't mix well. Chalk it up to that and stop insulting everyone.
Yes, there are some kids who don't adjust well and end up partying non-stop and wasting their time and money. You'll find these at every school - even the best. They don't last too long.</p>
<p>Mightynick...I wish you well at UMich and hope it is a better fit for you. I just think you are being too hard on PSU. I felt the need to present another kids experience to keep things even.</p>
<p>Hi toneranger. I really wasn't planning on posting again. I tired of the fight . :)</p>
<p>I really can't compare your son to the rest of the PSU crowd. He's in Schreyers Honors college and those kids usually have their own group of friends. I wasn't even referring to SHC kids when I said the student body at PSU is average, so I don't think you should get offended. Are you certain that your son would have gone to Penn State if it weren't for the honors college?</p>
<p>lol MightyNick Im tired of you using your seemingly bad experience to sum up the rest of the school. Im doing fine with my research, Internship and good GPA and so are my friends. many of my freshman friends have gotten great internships as well. Hell I even have a friend who chose not to go to Harvard and one who chose not to go to Cornell because they liked the atmosphere more at PSU. Im sorry that you had a bad experience and cant seem to be social enough to find people that you like. Im just tired of you calling PSU an average school for average students who couldnt go anywhere else. PSU has plenty of high caliber students in and out of the honors college (and BTW my two friends mentioned earlier are not in Schreyers). If for some reason you couldnt find you niche hey thats fine....but please quit bashing the school.</p>
<p>Goodluck at UM BTW...I hope we kill you guys in football this year :P.</p>
<p>Mightynick...no problem :) Everyone's experience is different. Sometimes choices work out because you are just plain lucky. Sometimes you are your own worst enemy and end up not being able to see clearly or recover from a slow start.</p>
<p>Toneranger is right though...big partiers everywhere: Umich no exception.</p>
<p>Good luck at UMich...:) I hope it's everything you want it to be.</p>
<p>HAHAH CH Will be awesome to beat Umich at their homefield:)</p>
<p>28 - 14 PSU. Mich lost a lot of guys...
And FYI MN - my son's friends are NOT all in Schreyer. And, just like CHS said, lots of the kids we know are outside of the honors program - and they're doing quite well.<br>
In any case, good luck to you.</p>
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<p>Alright then. Maybe it was just my rotten luck to be surrounded by complete idiots. I did make a few good friends though.</p>
<p>Enough already from Mighty Nick and Frasi Frasi, two students who didn't have a succesful first year at UP. Not every college is going to be the right fit for every student. That is why it is vitally important to do your research, schedule mutiple visits and talk to other students (not just 2 unhappy ones) about their school. One has to question why these two students have so much time on their hands that they can constantly be negatively commenting on a forum.</p>
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<p>What if PSU was the best option I had at the end of last year? I really didn't want to go here in the first place but was forced to since I didn't get into my top choice schools. I didn't go to PSU with the intention of transferring. Not at all. It was only after I spent 3 months that I felt like this wasn't the place for me. </p>
<p>I have every right to make comments about this school (whether they are positive or negative - and believe me when I say this, I did make some positive comments about the school). If everyone on this forum keeps saying PSU is like the most amazing school ever we'd give people the impression that PSU is like Stanford or something. If someone's gonna ask me what kind of school PSU is and how are the academics/students etc I'm not gonna be like Jec and constantly say how its an amazing school and doesn't have any flaws. </p>
<p>It sucks how no one can take criticism of their own school.</p>
<p>MN - there's criticism and then there's bashing. Maybe it's a fine line - but it's there. Saying that the vast majority of PSU students are drunken idiots sounds like bashing to me. Yes, it's your opinion and you have a right to express it. But it sounds like sour grapes from a kid who had a bad personal experience.
Good luck avoiding the party scene at UMich - not exactly what anyone would call a dry environment plus their students seem just as crazy about football. OK - so maybe their GPAs and SAT scores are higher - that doesn't make you automatically superior to a PSU student. Harvard it's not...
Good luck and hope you have a better experience there...</p>
<p>knitmom, I actually defend psu from resentful "bashing" by former students here on cc more than anything else. I think you are ignoring the reasoning in our posts and only viewing the fact that we were not satisfied with the atmosphere/college experience PSU had to offer. You consider a 3. 93 GPA for nick, ~3.7 in my first semester and active in at least two activities on campus unsuccesful? That is just a cheap ad hominem on your part. </p>
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<p>I do agree it was our choice to got the school so the disappointment was from personal fault and lack of research, but you can't censure us for having an empirical opinion. </p>
<p>About the abundance of time, maybe it is because we are not out there getting wasted:D--just kidding!</p>
<p>Mightynick, why don't you just move on to the Michigan CC area? You don't offer criticism; you sit on here and degrade the Penn State student body. Because of your personal bias, you give perspective students an inaccurate view of the Penn State experience. Again, you are going to Michigan. It is barely a top 25 school and PSU's acceptance rate is 12% lower. You say that Penn State’s business school is far from amazing, yet your only claim to intelligence is to be part of some group within the business college. Congrats, you conquered econ 001. If PSU was your best option, then obviously you were not better than attending. You were not good enough of a student to go anywhere else. That is your fault. Don’t attack Penn State, when was the school that went on a limb and actually accepted you. There are a lot of intelligent students at Penn State UP. Despite what you seem to think, it is doubtful that were anywhere near the top of the incoming class. Also, there are going to be parties at any big ten school. That is just part of the lifestyle of the conference and of going to a big school. I went up to Michigan 2 years ago for our football game. Again, you would have had to have gone with friends and have gotten invited to parties. I understand that you probably missed out on that type of experience, but it is the SAME TYPE of place. They do just as much drinking there as they do at Penn State. You will still just sit in your room on these message boards bragging about how you must be so smart to have been able to transfer out of PSU to Michigan. I wish you the best at Michigan, but only because I would rather you not come crawling back when you realize you will be a gpa bottom dweller.</p>
<p>Frasifrasi, I haven’t seen as much by you, but if you are providing the same jaded opinion then you should move on as well. Why don’t you go to the area for the school that you are now attending and build that up, rather than just sitting on here and trying to smear Penn State. I am glad that you agreed that it is your fault that you decided to attend. You should be more responsible and realize the blame falls on you for not picking a school that is conducive to your lifestyle. That makes as much sense as an alcoholic deciding to attend BYU and being angry when finding out that drinking isn’t allowed there and that nobody else will. Penn State has a work hard/play hard lifestyle. You obviously would be better suited to have gone to a place with only a work hard environment. Most people love Penn State, hence why there is a 95% retention rate. Your opinions, although allowed, are representative of a VERY small minority. Again, like Mightynick, giving your opinion is one thing, but misleading perspective students with slander about the school or the student body is crossing the line.</p>
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<p>Well, when I went there the student body seemed a lot smarter and friendlier than the one at PSU. UM is a Big 10 school and I'm fully aware that football is really really popular. I also know that people party a lot there too. But the thing is, I would rather be around party people that are smarter rather than party people that are either i) apathetic about academics (or slackers) or ii) academically weak (kinda dumb, but not exactly).</p>
<p>Stop worrying about my choice. I did my reserach and visited the school. It's not similar to PSU at all.</p>
<p>MN - oh it's time to give up on this really. In any case, I'm not sure how you know that the kids walking around Mich are smarter. Did someone pull you aside and engage you in a discussion about Plato?
In any case, you're going into business right? As someone who has been around that field for years - I would say that it would really help to develop a balanced attitude and to avoid acting like you're superior to those around you. It comes across as arrogance - a highly unattractive trait. Also, after work happy hours and parties are VERY common in business. Not saying that you have to party - just that developing a more tolerant attitude toward boorish drunken behavior is probably a good thing. Once again...good luck.. I promise no more posts on this.</p>
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<p>Actually we had a discussion about foreign exchange rates.</p>
<p>Ok, no more PSU bashing from me lol. I'm fed up of it too because I honestly think I've criticized it too much (some of it was warranted though).</p>
<p>jec, you make a very good analogy and toneranger's points are good as always. I am cynical but never smeared or bashed penn state like nick at all here on cc, only expressed my frustrations. Just clearing that up :)</p>