Chances....Really Nervous Senior......

<p>Stats:
SAT: 2200(750 CR,750M,700 W) 1500/1600.
SAT IIs: 730 Math I, 750 U.S. History
ACT: N/A
GPA: 94/100 weighted, 3.8 unweighted
Rank: 59/300 (Barely in Top 20 percent)------------So Worried About This....Freaking out about this---------
AP Courses: USGov(12),Macroeconomics(12),Lit(12), Composition(11),Biology(12),US History(11),BC Calc(12), AB Calc(11), World History(10), Stats(12)
AP Exams:USHist(4), AB Calc(4), English Composittion(3), World History(4)</p>

<p>Subjective:
Asian Male(Indian) From Dallas, Texas</p>

<p>Essays-Talked about how being a hindu helped me want to learn about different cultures/beliefs/traditions.
Short Essay- Talked about being in Fencing and how it taught me respect, dedication, coutersey.</p>

<p>ECs:
Fencing-All 4 Years of HS
Fencing Club- All 4 Years of HS
Pre-Medical Club- All 4 Years of HS
NHS- All 4 Years Of HS
Youth Club- All 4 years of HS
Youth Club Mentor- Made presentations for teenagers trying to get them to live more ethical lives.</p>

<p>Volunteer Work
250 Hours at a MRI Office
130 Hours at a Cardiologist office</p>

<p>Recs
Counselor- Said in other schools around the Dallas/FW area, I would have had a higher rank
Teacher-Marked me as top 5 percent of the students shes taught
Teacher- Marked me as the top 10 percent of all the students shes taught.</p>

<p>*****I have been rejected from Notre Dame Early Action and Rice Early Decision.........any hope at all for Emory????? My class rank sucks, and I have not shown a lot of interest(Just interviewed, and got a dvd).....</p>

<p>all depends if Emory needs an "Asian Male(Indian) From Dallas, Texas"....they use RD to fill-in the demographics they missed in ED....and they could care less about class rank btw, they don't even report it for their stats; unweighted GPA is their main concern......</p>

<p>Given your UW GPA and your stellar SAT scores, if they DO need an "Asian Male(Indian) From Dallas, Texas", you should be their guy.....GL</p>

<p>I wish, but emory only has an acceptance rate of 27 percent, what if I am one of the 73 percent that gets rejected? There are so many people with better Sat Scores, Gpa, and Class Rank that apply... </p>

<p>I know Emory doesn't look at Class Rank, when I called the admissions office, they said its not even considered...I just hope they don't throw my file into the rejected bin, because they saw my class rank....</p>

<p>your scores and stats are pretty decent.</p>

<p>i'm guessing there must be something real messed up with your essays/the subjectives if they would straight up reject you instead of deferring from both rice and notre dame.</p>

<p>^^ Rice I can understand, because I am in-state, they want geographic diversity, and I am not top 5 percent, which is a big deal for Rice.</p>

<p>But the top 10 percent thing is what got me rejected from Notre Dame....80 + percent of the kids that go to NotreDame are top 10 so the other 20 percent is for Atlehtes/Urms/Legacys....</p>

<p>Emory is my only hope, since its the only school that I applied to, that doesn't look at class rank...And I think I ruined my chances here by not showing enough interest...should have visited the school over the summer.....</p>

<p>I am happy, I just got waitlisted at WashU woot, woot.....I serouisly thought I was going to get rejected at WashU. I know they waitlist everyone, but still, this gives a little hope for Emory....</p>

<p>WashU is retarded when it comes to admissions.</p>

<p>^ I agree they waitlist a lot of REALLY qualified applicants, but I was definalty Underqualified for WashU, as I am for schools like Emory and Vanderbilt....I am just happy I wasn't rejected for having a class rank that is barely in the top 20 percent.....</p>

<p>if they don't look at class rank, u should be okay.
many colleges know that class rank can vary greatly by school. for example, somebody in the bottom half of the class at my school could be in the top 20-30 percent at another school. this is because my class is really small, and really competitive. sometimes it gets really annoying, cuz right after u get test scores back, everyone's like "wut'd u get?" and have a tendency to gloat if they got higher than u.</p>

<p>Not visiting Emory may have killed you. My college counselor told me that he tells all his students they must see Emory if they want to get accepted because Emory knows if you visited or not and they know if you bs the essay on why you want to go there. He said that he had one student a couple years ago who was african american, valedictorian, great SAT scores, played a sport, and volunteered a lot. He thought that this kid was a shoo-in for Emory and told him that he didn't need to visit. Emory was his only rejection and he now attends Princeton. </p>

<p>I am only going off what my counselor says and other people may have had different experiences. Still, you REALLY shoulda visited Emory.</p>

<p>^^ Indy500,</p>

<p>This is not true. The Emory Office of Admission wants to see "demonstrated interest". This can be satisfied in a number of ways, e.g., "official visit" (that is, you schedule a visit through the Office of Admission, and then validate by filling out the little card when you're there); ordering the video/DVD; contact with regional admission reps when they visit your geographical area; other contact with Admissions people. They understand that not every applicant can (or has the financial wherewithal) to visit the campus. </p>

<p>One thing I have noticed is that Emory is even more finicky regarding the especially stellar candidates (e.g., Ivy League caliber). Some applicants with sterling numbers have been wait-listed or rejected outright because Emory doesn't think they are serious about them (i.e., using Emory as a "back-up", in case they are rejected by HPYSM, for instance). It seems to happen every year.</p>

<p>NorCalDad, I don't know if I have shown enough interest, I ordered the Dvd, sent in an "Interest Letter" (reiterating and summarizing my emory essay, interviewed with an alumni at the end of Feburary(I don't know if this would have gotten back to the admissions office on time, since decisions are sent out at the end of march.)......</p>

<p>I was just going off what my college counselor said. While he has been known to give very good advice, he has also said some really ridiculous things in the past...or just things that aren't entirely true, like this perhaps. Your explanation seems to make more sense, although for any top 20 non-Ivy, interest does seem to be a very important factor and visiting is a great way to show interest.</p>

<p>Sorry for the confusion Colleges00701 and good luck!</p>

<p>Last year, the middle SAT score for Emory was 1403 and GPA was 3.82. You have way above the SAT and you have the same GPA. I think you're fine.</p>

<p>^^ Thanks, I hope so too.</p>

<p>In the interst letter that i sent in, I said how I would want to interview with an emory interviewers in my area, because I was not able to visit, and 15 days later, we had around 15 emory interviewers come to my area. I like to think it was because of my request in my interest letter, but its probably because there are so many people from my area that applied....</p>

<p>I didn't think Emory interviewed.</p>

<p>Wow. I hope that doesn't shoot me in the foot.</p>

<p>^ It shouldn't be a problem, they only do interviews in some areas around the country. Interviews are not required, they are starting a pilot program on the interviews, to test it out. I think I saw only 2 other people on CC that got interviews, and it was because they lived in an area that was full of Emory alumni...you should be fine.</p>

<p>Indy500, Colleges, Hilsa, and others ...</p>

<p>I recognize that some of you may be "really nervous" about the decisions due out in the next couple of weeks, but at this juncture, you've probably done about as much as you can. I know it's easier said than done, but try to RELAX. In the end, everything will work out just fine.</p>

<p>You will notice that I rarely offer opinions on any "chances" oriented thread. The reason isn't because I do not have an opinion, rather that there's likely so much I don't know about an applicant to render a truly valid assessment. I have mixed feelings about the feedback I see here on CC about "chances". In most cases, I suppose the feedback offered is about 50/50, based on what information/data was provided. If you're smart, you consider the source of the information, and although mostly well-intended, an off-hand "guess" should be looked at with some skepticism.</p>

<p>I've spoken with the Director of Admission a number of times (Jean Jordan, my daughter's first personal Emory contact several years ago), and it's clear to me Emory follows a deliberate, though holistic, process which puts their assessment in context with a student's circumstances. Measurements are not absolute. For instance, one's academic preparation and challenge to rigor is very important in their evaluation. However, they consider relative context -- that is, if an applicant's high school offers say 25 AP courses, but the student has taken only 1 or 2 AP classes, that doesn't demonstrate challenge. On the other hand, if a student has not taken any AP classes because the high school doesn't offer any, the student will not be penalized if s/he has otherwise demonstrated academic excellence. (They determine some of this based on a database of information about high schools around the country, plus a "school profile" that is usually part of the information that your HS guidance counselor sends to the admission office, with your transcript, recommendation(s), etc. This information may also include recognitions such as being a "Distinguished School" or "Blue Ribbon School", whereby competition is at a high caliber -- suggesting for instance that "top 20%" may be equal to "top 10%" at a less competitive school. The Office of Admission will know these peculiarities about schools.)</p>

<p>Other factors that are truly "factored" in context might be URM, first-generation in college, extraordinary achievement/distinction, geographical, etc. They may admit a student with "lesser" stats in order to maintain a broader diversity, i.e., taking somebody from Alaska vs. another applicant from NJ. Or they might consider how one brings a certain passion/interest to the Emory community. If for instance, your grades or test scores aren't as high as they could be -- because you've been spending your every spare moment in the lab researching an innovative cure for cancer, that might be OK. </p>

<p>Ultimately, they are wondering "What does this student bring to Emory?" ... and "Why does this student want to attend Emory?" ... and "How has this student demonstrated his or her desire/interest in Emory?" All of these questions can be answered in different ways. </p>

<p>One last thing, and I've confirmed this a number of times, there are no brownie points for "multiple" demonstrations of interest. If you've visited, that counts as "demonstrated interest"; if you've ordered the DVD (and NOT visited), that also counts in the same way. Remarkably, there are literally thousands of applicants who do nothing more than submit an application -- and these are the ones whose applications, despite grades/test scores, may be viewed askance. (The reasons are many and complex, but certainly "yield" and estimating incoming freshman class numbers, etc. are part of it.)</p>

<p>Truly, good luck to all of you.</p>

<p>Thanks, NorCalDad. You're really insightful. =]</p>

<p>Though, I'm not that worried about getting in. Probably because Emory is my #2 and I'm so obsessed with my #1 that my worries are only focused about that school at this time.</p>

<p>I just feel uninformed since I didn't realize Emory did interviews. I would have interviewed just to have even more of a solid application. But really, I'm not worried.</p>

<p>I'll be freaking out more if I get my rejection from my #1 school a few days earlier.</p>

<p>^^ Hilsa, Emory does not do interviews, per se. Any interviews done presently, to my understanding, are Alumni Interviews, and those are only done in certain areas, where there are a number of applicants along with available Emory Alumni. The alumni interviewers then must show interest in doing the interviews of applicants, PLUS go through a brief "training" session to make certain they are following recommended guidance for the interviews. I would say that 99% of applicants do not do these interviews, and about 95+% are not even offered opportunities to do the alumni interviews. </p>

<p>Also, don't "freak out" ... I mean, it's not like your life is about to end. ;-)</p>