Chances! (UVA/UMich)

<p>Hey, UVA and UMich are definetly my first choices, but im feeling skeptical about my stats. Please help!</p>

<p>GPA: 3.97
SAT: 1930 (1270)
Ethnicity: African American
EC: Robotics (4 years), Debate (4 years), NHS, SHS, Key Club, International Club
Community Service: mentoring elementary school children, tutoring high school students in math subjects, mentoring kids in designing robots
Job Experience: database design/management (internship)</p>

<p>If you live in Virginia, 60% chance of acceptance at UVA. If you don't live in Virginia, it's a big reach. UMich, 50/50.</p>

<p>you r definetly in!</p>

<p>Do you live in a socioeconomically mixed city? UMich uses a formula that gives points for that, which may be helpful.</p>

<p>I live in a small town and it is semi-socioeconomically mixed. haha that looks strange.</p>

<p>Are you instate for either school? And have you applied already?</p>

<p>yea, im instate for VA ive applied for both already</p>

<p>you have absolutely NO chance of getting into either school. those colleges dont like people like you.</p>

<p>shut up bobby.</p>

<p>and by you i mean people who dont have enough ECs.</p>

<p>I honestly don't know about UM, because you aren't in state. I don't really know how they do OOS. If you were in state, I would say you definitely would get in. Hopefully, that bodes well for you.</p>

<p>In at Virginia. Michigan is probable, but a bit more complex as a result of lawsuits challanging race based admissions quotas. If Michigan admissions gives added weight to your application for being an URM and, possibly, for geographical diversity, then you should be admitted to Michigan as well. kelsmom: Yes, but we don't know what his zip code will reveal.</p>

<p>They can get around that by using the disadvantaged socioeconomic zip code. That's why I asked about that.</p>

<p>Michigan is not allowed to consider race. It is in the state constitution and thus separate from the lawsuits.</p>

<p>Kelsmom is right, they can consider economic diversity, which might or might not match ethnic diversity.</p>

<p>Interesting post. Is this a recent amendment to the state constitution? This constitutional provision must have been added within the last few years as I do not recall it being mentioned in writings concerning the 2002 litigation.</p>

<p>Yes. In November, 2006 Michigan voters passed Proposal 2. This ballot initiative forbids all state entities, including UMich, from granting "prefential treatment" based on race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin. Prior to its passage, UM awarded points for underrepresented minority status ... just as points are still awarded for things like alumni ties, strength of school, etc. UM uses a zip code service now that identifies zips according to income. The idea is to give points to kids who are socioeconomically challenged. This likely includes minorities, but it allows all races to benefit. It's not perfect, but it was the best UM could come up with after Prop 2 passed.</p>

<p>Thank you guys so much for giving me your input. Waiting for the results is killing me.</p>

<p>thanks for chancing me guys, i appreciate it :)</p>