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<p>Please don't hate me. I just want to know.....
I am considering applying ED (I am a Junior) but I'm not quite sure yet.
I would be applying to go as a theatre major.</p>

<p>GPA: 4.1 weighted
ACT: 31 (hopefully a couple points higher in June)
Taking pretty much the hardest courses. I will have completed 6 AP courses when I graduate.</p>

<p>Freshman Courses (no ap classes available):
Geometry H, English H, Earth Science, Spanish 3 (highest as a freshman), US History (no honors)</p>

<p>Sophomore Courses (no ap classes available):
Algebra 2 H, English H, Bio H, Spanish 4 H, Modern World History H</p>

<p>Junior Courses (taking the most AP available):
APUSH, AP Lang, Trig H, Spanish 5 H, Chem</p>

<p>Senior Courses:
Ap Lit, Ap Calc or Stat (not sure which one yet), AP Euro, AP Bio, Spanish 6, Night course on the history of western political thought (only 15 kids get in)</p>

<p>EC:
TONS OF THEATRE
Company (school theatre group)
Company leadership (2 years on the board already, hopefully president next year)
Chamber Singers (audition ensemble)
Jazz Band
8 years of trumpet
3 years of voice lessons
theatre as community service (go around and perform i.e. nursing homes)
CAP21 Pre-College Summer Program (audition to get in)</p>

<p>NHS
Principal Honor Roll
NYLC (leadership conference)
UNIS-UN Conference</p>

<p>Aide at Hebrew SChool every Sunday morning
Pres. of Youth Group (2 years in a row)</p>

<p>i have some more EC but those are my biggest ones.
Any comments would be much appreciated!</p>

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<p>i would suggest taking the SAT. </p>

<p>by the way , take calc, not stats- it's way easier.</p>

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<p>I would do really bad on the SAT. It's not my type of test...... And wouldn't all schools, especially NU, be accepting of the ACTs because it's generally a Midwest test...</p>

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<p>that's a misconception. yes, schools are 'accepting' of the act, but most students take the act along with the sat to bolster their candidacy. The ACT is administered nationally, and though it might be true that not all schools look at the ACT the same way, there is not enough discrepancy in this matter to decide between acceptance and rejection. Schools, especially internationally acclaimed ones such as Northwestern, tend not to be involved in such regional myths. That said, I think it's not accurate to label the ACT as "midwest test." </p>

<p>But anyways, why not take the SAT? Most other competing applicants will have taken it, and if you don't do well, you don't HAVE to send your score report. </p>

<p>good luck and enjoy the rest of your junior and senior year!</p>

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<p>but here's the thing. the SAT is not my type of test. Therefore there would be a huge discepency in the scores and that wouldn't look right....
and i am taking SAT II and I feel like i did prety well on them... and if i take the SAT I and withhold my scores that means my SAT IIs won't go in becuase they are all on the same score report...
I guess I might take a practice SAT and see how I do... I can always take it in the fall</p>

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<p>yea that's true. whatever you feel will maximize your chances is probably the best way to go. THe thing you mentioned about the SAT2's is an issue. When you get your scores back and they are good and you dont want to "taint" your score report with sub-par SATI's... then don't.</p>

<p>taking several practice tests would be a fantastic idea.</p>

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<p>Actually AP Calc will not be easier than AP Stat as some previous poster replied, but that's a side note :P Stat only has a requirement of Advanced Algebra, while you definitely need PreCalc to take an AP Calc so it only makes sense that Stat is easier.</p>

<p>Otherwise, the SAT is generally more important than the ACT and unless you do <em>REALLY</em> bad, it's a good idea to submit both tests and use the ACT only to bolster your SAT scores.</p>

<p>Other than that, the SAT II's are also pretty important as they show how good you're doing in specific subjects on a national/international level.</p>

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<p>typecastme22, according to the</a> NU fact sheet, section C8.A, NU does recommend the SAT only, but will also accept the ACT only. If you look further in section C9, you'll see that in 2004, 16% of those accepted submitted only ACT scores. (Since either ACT or SAT is required, the percentage not submitting SAT scores must have submitted ACT scores.) It looks like 48% submitted only SAT scores, which I guess leaves 36% who sent both.</p>

<p>Those stats would be more telling if they included numbers for those rejected as well, but at least they show some people do get admitted without SAT scores. </p>

<p>I also think trying some practice SAT test would be a good idea. Try some of the test prep books and test yourself before and after. You might surprise your self.</p>

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<p>Nmc... the background check of getting into stats or calc don't make the classes themselves easier or harder... i just took both exams and ap calc was a sinch while stats what a beeeotch and a half.</p>

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<p>I will look into the SAT.
But as far as my stats as they are now.... is there a chance?</p>

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<p>typecastme22, if you look at the link I gave you before, you'll see your ACT score is well in NU's range. What you need to know is that NU does not admit based on scores and stats alone (see section C7 of the link below). Your essays and other things will also be very important. Look at the table in section C7 - the things in the "Important" column really are important. There are people with fantastic test scores who aren't admitted, and people with lower stats who are.</p>

<p>If you're determined to be accepted to NU, applying ED can increase your chances. Visiting campus also wouldn't hurt, because it shows a strong interest in the school. NU likes students who love NU, and have managed to demonstrate it.</p>

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<p>Ok thanks. I am going out during Memorial Day weekend and spending an entire day on campus (touring the theatre dept. and the school). I really hope I like it as much in person as I do program wise. We shall see!</p>

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<p>BlueDevilBBall, Yeah I know what you mean since I did that too, but what I meant to say was that generally the material covered will be harder, it's kinda open to interpretation anyway. I guess, it's more like you'll need more knowledge of math to get by in Calc, but it's not necessarily a harder test or class if you're good w/ that kind of stuff. Personally, I prefer calc, but maybe that's only cause I intend to be a math major next year at NU :P</p>