Chances?

<p>Williams is my first choice, but I'm interested in what you guys think my chances are at getting accepted.</p>

<p>Asian American male from NY(suburbs)</p>

<p>SAT I - 650cr 760m 630w (8 essay)
SAT II - 780Bio 700Math1c
ACT - 33 (10 essay)
GPA - around 3.85 uw, will have taken 11 APs by the end of senior year
School doesn't rank</p>

<p>ECs:
Varsity Winter and Spring Track (10,11,12)
Varsity Cross Country (11,12)
Mathelites (10,11,12)
Spanish Honor Society (10,11,12)
Leadership conference (this past summer)
Various Volunteer work (about 25 hours)</p>

<p>I know Williams is definately going to be a reach for me, but do you think I have a chane at all? Don't worry about hurting my feelings I'd rather get a straight answer :). My ECs are really bad I know, does that hurt me a lot? Post away!</p>

<p>To be absolutely honest, the scores are a bit weak for a typical Williams match. I wouldn't necessarily say that your ECs are "really bad" without knowing more about them. Do you have any leadership positions or awards in any of them? How dedicated to them are you and what roles have you played? Ethnicity helps though-- I'm almost certain that Williams gives some favor to Asian-Americans as URMs.</p>

<p>yes considering Williams is full of white people :)</p>

<p>I think your stats are decent, perhaps a bit low for Williams though. The 33 ACT is certainly the way to go, and you should retake for a higher score only if you have time. What kind of scores have you received on APs so far? A list full of 4s and 5s will be very helpful for you.</p>

<p>tmL, the combination of your ACT and SATIIs is good. Your GPA is good. Being Asian American may still qualify as URM at Williams. So all of those are positives. Even though your school doesn't rank your guidance counselor most likely will assign you to a general decile. If you're in the top 10% (more or less) that would also be good.</p>

<p>Your ECs and the other intangible aspects of your application like your essays and recommendations will make a big difference. </p>

<p>Your sports involvement is always a plus for Williams. If you are able or willing to participate in varsity track so much the better. Being recruited would put you on a whole other level.</p>

<p>Your other ECs would require more elaboration. Williams will want to know what you're interested in, what makes you you, what you will contribute to the community. You'll have to think about how to get that across.</p>

<p>Applying ED would also increase your chances, but don't do that unless you're sure that Williams is your first choice and if you don't need to compare financial aid packages among other colleges.</p>

<p>I don't have any leadership positions in my ECs, although I am probably going to be captain of cross country and track next year. However, I am extremely dedicated to the sports I do. I got the coaches award for winter track but I don't know how much that helps. My volunteer hours also show my dedication, I volunteer to hand out water for an annual marathon near me. </p>

<p>APs are so so. So far I have:
Euro(10th) - 3
Comp(11th) - 4
US History(11th) - 3
Bio(11th) - 5
Stat(11th) - 5</p>

<p>I could've sworn I had a 4 on US :(</p>

<p>About running varsity track in college. I'd love to do so if I got the chance. Although I'm not a star, I work hard to improve. Do you think emailing the coach would be benefitial? Do they have any say in the admissions process? I thought Div III schools didn't do that but I may be wrong.</p>

<p>You should definitely email the coach and chat with him, show your dedication/love for Williams and your sporting accolades. Anything is a plus really, especially at a highly athletic college as Williams!</p>

<p>Thanks for the advice. I just thought of another question. Would Williams look at my SAT and ACT essay scores as two seperate scores or take the better of the two scores? Like I have an 8 on the SAT essay and a 10 on the ACT one. Would they just judge my 10?</p>

<p>Not sure about that one. From my experiences, I found that colleges and unis use the sat as a prelim measure to 'weed' out certain applicants who may appear underqualified. However, as the applicant pool at Williams is relatively small compared to those of bigger unis, the adcom look deeper into the application to discover all the important information about your person and academic accolades/potential...everything that the SAT does not demonstrate. So again, as long as your scores are competitive and in the published range of the qualified Williams applicant, you need not to worry.</p>