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Colleges & Universities A-Z College of William and Mary
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<p>Senior at Public HS in Northern VA in Fairfax County
Ethnicity: White
Male</p>

<p>GPA: 3.97 (UW) (about top 5% of class)
SAT: 2250
M: 780
CR: 740
W: 730</p>

<p>SAT IIs
Math L2 : 780
US History: 660</p>

<p>APs
US History - 4
Eng Lang. - 4
Statistics - 5</p>

<p>Senior Year Classes:
English 12
AP Calculus AB
French 4
AP Psychology
AP Environmental Science
AP Government
Weight Training</p>

<p>Ex Curriculars:
Varsity XC: (10,11,12) Captain, All District, MVP
Varsity Indoor Track: (11) All-District, Regional Team Runner-ups
Varsity Outdoor Track (10,11) All-District, All-Region
National Honor Society (11,12)
Mu Alpha Theta (11,12)
Science Honor Society (12)
French Honor Society (12)
Ski Club (10,11,12)</p>

<p>Work:
Soccer Ref: August 2003 - November 2005
Caterer: July 2005 - Present </p>

<p>Community Service
Sunday Religion Catechist (11,12), Occasional Community Service Through Church (9,10,11,12) </p>

<p>Awards/Honors
Academic Letter (10,11,12) GPA 3.8 or Higher
Science Fair (9-11)
French Department Award (10,11)
Russian Department Award (11)
World History Academic Award (10)
10-Time Scholar Athlete
National Merit Commended Scholar</p>

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<p>William and Mary looks to be an easy match for your stats. Perhaps even a safety. Suggest looking into schools in the Patriot League since they are quite similar or better than W&M although not state tuition!</p>

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<p>Th only Patriot League school on par with W&M would be Colgate. Agree that you are a strong candidate, but since W&M is not as numbers based as other state schools, you would never consider it a safety. High match definitely.</p>

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<p>The Princeton Review has an Admissions Selectivity Rating for W&M of 93. All Patriot League schools (except for American) have selectivity Ratings well above that.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.princetonreview.com/home.asp[/url]”>http://www.princetonreview.com/home.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Yea, but the w&m thing is just a gliche. They’ve been high 90’s, and definitely far more competitive than most Patriot League schools … IF … one is not a Virginian. Here’s a case where one size doesn’t fit all, and thus to make the kind of observations noted in several earlier posts doesn’t make any sense. </p>

<p>To the original question, I would guess (as we all are) that you, being one of those Virginians, are a slam dunk for Wm&Mary, in the absence of any closet skeletons or absolute botching of the app. </p>

<p>Conversely, you would definitely NOT be that (slam dunk … but definitely strong candidate) at Colgate, Lehigh, Bucknell, and a few others. You’d probably NOT be admitted to USNA unless you can do 15 pullups. American is slam dunk time. Holy Cross, no clue. What are others in Pat League.</p>

<p>If you were from outta state, W&M would be just like those tough Pat Leauge schools, and probably even tougher. You’re not, so you’re in, imo.</p>

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<p>I would bet that you get in.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://shouldnicholberenewed.org/risk2.doc[/url]”>http://shouldnicholberenewed.org/risk2.doc&lt;/a&gt;
According to referenced report: Applications to W&M have not kept pace with the general upward trend. Up only 1% compared to 15% for other Virginia state schools. Average alumni giving trails average of peers by 3 to 14%. Report alkso discusses well publicized financial problems at W&M.</p>

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<p>Wm&Mary is not like other state schools. Who are peers you refer to in the giving measurement?</p>

<p>And as noted, when a public tries to behave like a private in the absence of aggressive philanthropic outreach AND the mandate to enroll 2/3 Virginians (at Virginian tuition prices) well, it’s gonna lead to twubble. Just do the math in light of the policy mandates. </p>

<p>If Nichols really wants to DO something, he needs to spend all of his time on 2 fronts … with the legislature and with his donors (not necessarily alumni). As always, the ship will rise no further than its leadership tide. And the reality of Sandra Day O’Connor is nice but so what. The value there is if it garners some free PR and IF you could get HER writing the editorials and lobbying her cronies and others who count. My bet is she’s little to no stomach for such hard work. Nor would many at her stage. It’s mercurial window dressing. W&M needs to go next door to Colonial Williamsburg and take some lessons about how to go after the $$, and quit sitting around, acting as though there’s some “entitlement.” That will only lead them to the back of the pack in a dog eat dog business.</p>

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<p>Ok 3 Things:</p>

<p>1st: That shouldnicholberenewed website is run by a bunch of ultra-conservatives on campus who have wanted nichol to leave almost since he got there. While some of the stats may be true, just be aware that you’re not exactly getting the most trusted name in news.</p>

<p>2nd: There’s no way any school in the patriot league is worth the difference in tuition from UVa or WM. In-state in Virginia is a great deal and unless someone gets into an ivy or something, most should and do take advantage of it.</p>

<p>3rd: the OP has a very good chance of being accepted by WM</p>

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<p>your criticisms might be taken better if you learned what the President’s name actually is.</p>

<p>However, I agree that there should be an increase in time spent fundraising.</p>

<p>I also think that an Ivy at full price over UVA or WM at instate is not worth it. But if the money is no issue, then by all means take the Ivy.</p>

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<p>My opinion is that you will be admitted.</p>

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<p>Everybody loves a XC runner! How could they say no?</p>

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<p>You are definitely a shoo-in for W&M. Suggest also considering the Patriot Leagues schools, similar size and academic profiles as W&M and seems to be getting stronger every year. I would guess you would get some tution relief based on your stats.</p>

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<p>What are Patriot League schools</p>

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<p>Navy, Colgate, Lafayette, Lehigh, Holy Cross, Worchester (I think?), Army, American … and I’m not sure who else. Georgetown and Fordham are probationary members, I believe (altho not in hoops, obviously).</p>

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<p>Bucknell is a Patriot League school too</p>

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Colgate, Lehigh, Bucknell, and a few others

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<p>I have to disagree, it is a lot easier to get into Lehigh and Bucknell from FFX County than into W&M. The OP is a slam dunk for those schools.</p>

<p>It is important to remember what these other schools already know, this candidate had to achieve 94% to get an A not 90. No weight for honors or GT. PA schools are historically very kind to Nova applicants.</p>

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<p>I believe you’re a bit off target on that one … for Virginians.</p>

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<p>I checked Naviance for 2007 admissions data, actually it is easier to get in than I thought: Here are the averages of accepted applicants</p>

<p>Bucknell: GPA 3.81 SAT 2074 some applicants w/ > 4.0 GPA</p>

<p>Colgate: GPA 3.8 SAT 2074 </p>

<p>Lehigh : GPA 3.59 SAT 2013</p>

<p>The OP smokes these stats.</p>

<p>W&M GPA 3.92 SAT 2086 </p>

<p>Those are the facts for last year. This year things might be a bit tougher due to increase in apps. Dunno.</p>

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<p>Sorry to be ignorant … what is Naviance and its admisiions data? I’m not familiar …</p>

<p>Also is the data for all students or Virginia students @ W&M? </p>

<p>Not sure how accurate it all is, but for example, Princeton Review has Bucknell @ 96, Lehigh 97, and W&M @ 93 in terms of admissions “selectivity.” Not sure what they say of Colgate. </p>

<p>Can you expand, define some for us, pls? Thanks in advance.</p>