Chances?!

College Search & Selection
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<p>hey everyone!
i just finished junior year
i wanted to know my chances at getting into any ba/md or bs/md programs
at Penn State (6)
U of Miami (FL) (7)
St. Louis University and NEOUCOM (Northeast Ohio University College of Medicine)
University of Southern California
Drexel University
Albany Medical College
George Washington
Vanderbilt University (ENGAGE Program)
Pennstate/jefferson
UMDNJ
Brown PLME (8)
Northwestern HPME (7)
Case Western (7 or 8)
Michigan (8)
Sophie Davis (7)
Howard University (8)
brooklyn college (8)
suny stony brook (8)
u rochester (8)
rice/baylor (8)
George Washington University (7)
RPI
Siena
BU
Union college
Washington University (St. Louis) (8)</p>

<p>i know its alot, but i wanted to know which colleges i have a chance at and what are my strengths/weaknesses</p>

<p>stats:
gpa: 3.9 (end of junior year) weighted i know =/
sat scores: 2240 (800 math 750 CR 680 Writing)
Bio- 740
Math 2C- 800
CHem- 710
school doesn't rank
AP classes:
This year
Calc BC
Biology
Spanish
English I
Next year
Environmental Science
English II
Statistics
No Scores yet</p>

<p>volunteer and activities:
9th Grade
1. Peer Tutoring
2. Model Congress
3. Peer Mediation
4. Science Olympiad (Not Team)
5. Religious Camp - 80 hours
6. Soup Kitchen</p>

<p>Summer between 9th and 10th
1. Space Camp in Florida
2. English Class at Rutgers Preparatory School</p>

<p>10th Grade
1. Research in School (Lab Assistant)
2. Natural Helper’s Club
3. Spanish Honor Society
4. Ping Pong Intramurals
5. CPR
5. International Club
6. First Aid
7. Religious Camp - 60ish hours
8. Soup Kitchen - 10 hours
9. Pre-Med Club
10. Published in Magazine
11. Rescue Squad (Cadet) - 15 hours a month
12. Published on NCBI (Scientist website) for research</p>

<p>11th Grade
1. Research in School (Lab Assistant)
2. Natural Helper’s Club
3. National Honor Society - 17 hours
4. Pre-Med Club
4. International Club
5. Mu Alpha Theta Honor Society
6. Rescue Squad (Cadet) - 15 hours a month
8. Religious Camp - 60ish hours
9. Soup Kitchen - 10 hours
10. Two Nursing Homes - 50ish hours
12. On NJN news
13. Published on NCBI (Scientist website) for research</p>

<p>Summer between 11th and 12th
1. Rutgers Waksman Institute-Research
2. SAT Tutor (Math, Critical Reading, Writing)
3. Health Fairs – taking blood pressure, checking blood sugar, taking pulse
4. Building benches that will be donated to Yellowstone National Park
5. I may be starting and leading a free SAT class in a less fortunate town</p>

<p>12th Grade - projected
1. Research (President) - also now a summer research program at rutgers university
2. Natural Helper’s Club
3. Pre-Med Club
4. International Club
4. National Honor Society - at least 15 hours
5. Mu Alpha Theta Honor Society
6. Rescue Squad (Cadet) - 15 hours a month
7. Religious Camp - 80 hours
8. Soup Kitchen - 20 hours?
9. Two Nursing Homes - 20 hours?
10. Published on NCBI (Scientist website) for research</p>

<p>I also play tennis, dance (ballroom, latin, indian, etc.) - competitions, and play piano. I also privately tutor as my job.</p>

<p>wow..my life story, but yeah how does that sound?? chances for any of the programs?</p>

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<p>You do a lot of really worthless useless activities. None of these add value to you as a person. These activities barely sticks on you and doesn't even remotely tell me anything about you like to do as a person and individual other than the fact that you have a ton of time on your hand and your wasting it on useless clubs.</p>

<p>Cut those activities in half which you consider really worth your time an have actual meaning.</p>

<p>Other than that, EMPHASIZE research and your publications. You have a magnificient chance at Ba/MD programs.</p>

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<p>^ I agree. You need to majorly cut down your activities to just show the ones you are most interested in. Otherwise, it looks just like you did them all to look good for colleges (I'm not saying that's what you did, only how it looks.)</p>

<p>Other than that, I'd say you have a really good shot at all of those. I'm not too familiar with most of them though. </p>

<p>Good luck =].</p>

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<p>although those above were kind of harsh saying the activities were worthless, i do see what they are saying in that it looks like you're a bit too spread out from an application perspective -- if you're looking to go bs / md then definitely go for the more academic activities such as lab work / research / tutoring...although a lot of the others, such as dance and piano show you are a well rounded person. i just think you should re-allocate more time to those you are most passionate about, not necessarily cut anything out.</p>

<p>as for chances, they look great at pretty much everywhere you listed!</p>

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<p>I am no expert, but I bet colleges would rather see something like EXTREME dedication to one or 2 things rather then 50 million things...</p>

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<p>^ absolutely. Otherwise it just looks like padding, dude.</p>

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<p>Scores/GPA too low for top 20 BA/BS/MD programs</p>

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<p>^oh..what are these top 20? should i even bother applying?</p>

<p>and btw my sat 2230 was (Math 800 CR 750 Writing 680)</p>

<p>so i should just not include those "extra" activities in my applications? What should i do with them?</p>

<p>how can i stress my research and publications? essays?</p>

<p>Is there anything else you all need to know about me? </p>

<p>thanks alot all of you!</p>

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<p>also
which would you count as useless
the ones that are not related to med? or like the random ones lol like international club</p>

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<p>I mean top 20 school with direct MD programs.</p>

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<p>okay</p>

<p>anybody else??</p>

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<ol>
<li><p>Sorry to break this to you, but 2230 is hardly stellar. It's an acceptable score for the top schools, but it's not an eye opener. Especially with a <700 Writing score. Unless you're an international who moved only recently, the verbal score is low. (and if you ARE an international at some Asian country, you BETTER be getting close to 800 with all those SAT classes they're forced to go to, hahah) Heck, even a 2400 isn't really a catch at most places anymore and ESPECIALLY for direct programs, which are among the MOST competitive - most more competitive than the HIGH ivies.</p></li>
<li><p>Emphasize your research and etc by expanding on that in the common app activity question. I wouldn't go so far as to write your MAIN essay on it, unless you can come up with an amazinzg idea to make it unique and interesting and not the "I did research for the good of humanity and I have learn soo many things from the process and from my mentors. It's great and I love it" boring essay.</p></li>
<li><p>Slash the activities you only participated in for a year and are just random (student congress, pingpong, international)</p></li>
<li><p>While I'm sure CPR and first-aid DO SEEM to be related and possibly increase your chances, it doesn't deserve a spot in your list of ECs. This is the kind of thing you mention in the passing in some other part of your applicatoin - maybe when you explain how you know you are dedicated to your proposed career path or somethign like that.</p></li>
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<p>hmm thanks for the insight and all of the information!</p>

<p>i know its not much, but i retook my sat and my writing score is now a 720, making my superscore 2270..still nothing but no longer under 700.</p>

<p>mihan which programs that i listed above do you think i have a good shot at?</p>

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<p>I can't really say since I'm no real expert in the direct med programs, but here's one stat to look at as a reference: for the Rice/Baylor program, 1600 applied and 14 were accepted. </p>

<p>You can look up similar stats (I think Brown has it posted) to give you a general idea of competition...which is HIGH.</p>

<p>Sorry, I can't give much of more useful information.. ;)</p>

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<p>GPA should be at least 4.2 for some of those schools. I think your SAT's may bail you out though.</p>

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<p>np mihan thanks tho
okay
do any of you think i should retake my SAT's??</p>

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<p>np mihan thanks tho</p>

<p>do any of you think i should retake my SAT??</p>

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<p>please give some feedback everyone. I want to know my chances for these programs
definetely for brown, northwestern, rutgers, rice, umiami, gwash, drexel, pennstate,bu, michigan, stonybrook</p>

<p>i retook my sats and did kinda worse except in writing
Now my record is
1) Math 800 CR 750 Writing 680
2) 770 690 720
should i retake??</p>

<p>any other suggestoins?</p>

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<p>please i really need help
anyone?</p>

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<p>If you're stuck in a rut with your SAT scores, take the ACT. Personally, I find it a lot easier to attain a high score on the ACT, and colleges will regard it just the same.</p>