Change from L&S to CoC/CoE??

<p>Hi, </p>

<p>How hard is it to change from L&S to college of chemistry (CoC)?
what about college of engineering (CoE), specifically bioengineering or mechanical engineering? (i want to keep my options open, in case i want to change majors. XP)
Is it like you can only change colleges if you get a GPA of over 3.6 or something?</p>

<p>Also, I heard that CoC is a GPA killer... T_<em>T is this true?
Would you recommend me stay in L&S for chemistry B.A. or MCB, or move to CoC? I want to major in bio or chem, but I heard there are a lot of premeds in L&S and I dont want to compete with them... ></em>></p>

<p>How are the math majors at cal?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>I’m sure that CoC is no slack but I doubt it’s significantly harder than CoE, which just published the average GPAs for each year. It’s on their admissions website somewhere. Average GPAs for freshman in engineering were 2.8, then there was a huge jump to 3.15~ for sophomores after the people who failed got axed, and then it stays around there, going up to 3.25 for seniors. The average across the CoE is a 3.2.</p>

<p>So… considering the university avg. is a 3.25 and CoE’s avg. is 3.2, I think we can say that although GPA does not indicate difficulty of the material (engineers might be used to working harder for the same grade), it does indicate that the difficulty of grading across colleges isn’t tremendously different (though certainly physics, math, etc in L&S balance out some of the … other majors). Freshman year aside - I’m guessing people either transfer out of CoE or they learn to shape up - an average GPA of 3.2 isn’t as dreadful as people make CoE out to be. CoC isn’t going to be much different - I’d guess their average is between 3.15 and 3.25.</p>

<p>It’s not ridiculously hard to go from L&S to CoC, but there is an application process. L&S to CoE is a little more difficult because CoE has way too many people already. I think the GPA minimum to apply is about a 3.0. I have no idea what’s the rate of people transferring in though.</p>

<p>CoC is indeed a GPA killer. Which is why the premeds flee in droves. very amusing. Only transfer to CoC if you truly love chemistry for all that it is. not if you’re in it for the parental cocktail party glory in the form of premedism.</p>

<p>In general it is pointless to get a chemistry B.A. when a chemistry B.S. is offered. actually the B.A. requires the same classes as the B.S., except for the B.A. you also have to deal with the L&S breadths stuff. which is actually quite painful, I’d imagine.</p>

<p>If you dislike premeds and love chemistry (not just the biological aspects, but the range of the discipline), do consider giving the CoC a try!</p>

<p>The math majors at cal are pretty much like the math majors elsewhere, I think. fairly self-selecting due to the nature of math (highly talent-based–not exactly the kind of major that if you work hard, you’ll do well. in the pure math topics, a certain amount of talent is required). Naturally, due to this self-selecting nature, there also aren’t that many math majors.</p>

<p>All physical science and engineering majors take pretty much the same classes their freshmen year, with only a few variations. If you haven’t really decided what to major in but you interested in physical science and engineering, just take the physics 7 series, math 1a-b, 53, and 54, and some lower division engineering courses and you’ll be able to switch later with no lost time.</p>