<p>Somebody that works in my community college told me that I could retake a C class if I got the professor to change my C to a D or F. Has anybody done this? Is it even possible to do so? Will it show on my transcript that I changed the grade from a C to a D or F? I want to do this so that I could retake the course because I know that I can get an A. I am looking toward UCLA and these Cs really bring my GPA down but UC's look at the new class grade.</p>
<p>Keep the C and move on. In my opinion, asking to have a C changed to a D or F would be very foolish (which is the nicest way I can think of saying it).</p>
<p>Yes, the D or F would appear quite prominently on your transcript. Some schools will allow academic renewal, but it is possible that the college(s) to which you apply would not honor academic renewal and would calculate the D or F into your transfer GPA.</p>
<p>Rather than the foolish move you propose, take a higher course in the same subject and get an “A” to demonstrate mastery.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should ask “somebody that works in [your] community college.”</p>
<p>I don’t think that’s a terribly reliable source of information, but for a question about the policies of your community college, it’s probably better than strangers on the Internet.</p>
<p>If you want to know, you should ask an academic advisor at your community college. And then you should, perhaps, ask yourself whether you’ve ever heard a more harebrained idea in your life.</p>
<p>(x-posted with alamemom, who is obviously a more diplomatic person than I am.)</p>
<p>Well its because I want to retake the class and get an A. I know that I can get an A in these classes. Its because I want to go to UCLA and UC’s look at the new grade.</p>
<p>Take alamemom’s advice.</p>
<p>Do the math to see which way would give you a better GPA and prominence status.</p>
<p>I am really wanting to retake the courses. They were such basic courses, I just did not study, this was early on in my cc career. If its even possible why hasn’t more people gone this route by getting a grade change sheet and getting their professor to change it to a D if they were really wanting to retake the course.</p>
<p>Because it costs both money and time, and, IMO, you could make better use of both by doing something else with them.</p>
<p>money and time will not hold me back to get into the school that I want to go.</p>
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Because they are not as foolish as you. Please note:
You do not have a viable reason for using it. “I just did not study” does not qualify as a viable reason.</p>
<p>You still don’t get it. A C is not considered a black mark but a D or F on transcript will raise a lot of questions. With a re-taken grade A your GPA is still lower when that D or F is on your transcript. Take a higher class on the same or related subject to prove that you are competent.</p>
<p>Absolutely stupid idea. I really hope UCLA doesn’t accept you. Blows my mind how some people can’t use common sense and expect to get into a school like UCLA let alone the UCs.</p>
<p>^Wow, why do you have to be so harsh? The guy is just trying to think of creative ways to improve his chances. Yeah it might be a bad idea, but it doesn’t hurt to ask. This seriously makes you wish he’s not accepted? Guess what? The logic behind it is actually sound, in theory, and I would know. My first attempt at community college ended in failure. I quit going halfway through my first semester, and left with 4 Fs. I decided to try again last year, and after academic renewal I now have a 4.0. Do you think I’m happy I got 4 Fs instead of 4 Cs? Heck yeah. If I had gotten 4 Cs, my GPA would be wayyy lower and I wouldn’t even have a shot at a lot of the schools I’m applying to. That doesn’t mean I would recommend doing what he’s asking, but it’s not completely unreasonable. There’s really no reason to be so negative towards him.</p>
<p>There’s the dishonesty of the idea. </p>
<p>And there’s the notion that the poster’s former professors should be complicit in that dishonesty.</p>
<p>That’s true I didn’t really think about that part. If it’s even possible it is a little bit unethical. I just didn’t think the guy deserved to get blasted, especially since an employee at his college said it was fine.</p>
<p>I think its a stupid idea, but, from the page that alamemom linked:</p>
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<p>I would guess the real question is if people purposely fail classes to get put under this policy. Sort of unfair, but I think most other colleges would consider the course in your GPA.
So I guess it is viable, but its somewhat dishonest.</p>
<p>So lets say a person first time around, did well and got an A.</p>
<p>Then another messes up, and gets a C. Then retakes the class, working just as hard as the first person. And gets an A.</p>
<p>How this that messed up? The second person had to work just as hard as the first person, to get the A. He also wasted time and money, (punishment for not doing well the first time). People getting ****ed off because someone wants to retake a class is pretty dumb. There is only good advice, and bad advice. Good advice is telling him to talk to his school about it. Calling him names is bad advice, and you look stupid.</p>
<p>In the end, all that matters is that you actually understand the material. And that you get into the college you want to. Its up to you to make it happen. So talk to an academic adviser and your teacher who gave you the C.</p>
<p>You’re not getting it. He can’t retake a C without a little dishonesty.</p>
<p>There’s two sides to this. </p>
<p>First off, UCLA has a much higher bar for admission than the other UCs. Even though they are holistic, they put heavy emphasis on GPA. One ‘C’ won’t hurt at all granted OP has a high GPA (I’m assuming he has a high GPA since he wants to xfer to UCLA). UCLA will definitely be more wary of someone getting an ‘F’ and retaking the class regardless of the new grade. On the application, they ask to explain any discrepancies. Usually people who retake classes have some kind of personal issue (medical issue, family issues etc.) </p>
<p>OP’s not going to put down that he retook the class because he didn’t try hard enough the first time. There is no real explanation to put down.</p>
<p>Next, if OP retook the class, the ‘D/F’ would still stay on the transcript. The new grade replaces the old one gpa-wise but it doesn’t eliminate the ‘D/F’ from the transcript. This is why people usually opt for Academic Renewal instead. That actually wipes the grade from the transcript. The UCs don’t see it nor any other future colleges. It shows up as AR. </p>
<p>Academic renewal has some requirements. Usually it has to be a specific period of time after the class is taken (for ex 2 semesters at my old CC), and there has to be a valid reason. They don’t hand out ARs for free. People try to abuse AR but CCs are very good about stopping it. Generally, AR is for classes that won’t be repeated. If someone takes a non-required GE class and gets an ‘F’, it’s perfect for AR.</p>
<p>Lastly, the other concern is that OP didn’t get a ‘D/F’. Changing a C to a ‘D/F’ after the fact is unethical in my eyes. I know at my old CC, it was definitely not allowed. In fact, I highly doubt OP’s prof will change his C to a D or F. I’ve never seen this done. </p>
<p>It’s a stupid idea all around. A waste of time, money, and retaking the class will never remove the D/F from the transcript. Take the C and move on. The UCs aren’t anal about one C.</p>
<p>Also I apologize. I didn’t mean to be so harsh. Best of luck getting into UCLA. If you have any questions, feel free to pm me.</p>