<p>rpicton:</p>
<p>these words that i read from your are marvelous. everybody says it’s extremely tough/impossible/need a really good reason…but you brighten the day…thx</p>
<p>btw, was your brother a freshman or transfer when he made the changes?..because it varies…people say it’s easy to change to engineering when a freshman, not so much when a transfer</p>
<p>He was a junior when he made the switch, but was admitted as a freshman.</p>
<p>This is not really true what they are saying about bizecon. It is not flat out IMPOSSIBLE. </p>
<p>You can bother enough people to get what you want done as long as you have a good reason. I am not saying that switching into biz econ is easy or will be done for you, but if you have a good reason, see the dean of economics department enough times, have the preqs done, etc. you may be allowed to change into biz econ. (i have seen it done b4 by transfers- it is a rare occurance though)</p>
<p>Just so you know however, your business opportunaties upon graduation with a psych degree with accounting minor from UCLA are just as good as a bizecon degree with accounting minor from ucla. Really the accounting minor is what sets you to get into TOP4 and the like. </p>
<p>The accounting minor is difficult to get into b/c it requires certain grades in preq courses</p>
<p>BTW you can exceed 216 units as well, same thing, if you need something done there are always ways around it. I knew a guy who graduated double major/double minor with 246 units.</p>
<p>edit: i was accepted as math/econ, i wanted to change to econ (but eventually changed to something else altogether) - they told me that they do not allow the changes, but after a long email discussion of it they said they would let me if i had done xyz… basically if i had the preqs and grades from CC that would have been on par with the accepting class of that year.</p>
<p>“Just so you know however, your business opportunaties upon graduation with a psych degree with accounting minor from UCLA are just as good as a bizecon degree with accounting minor from ucla. Really the accounting minor is what sets you to get into TOP4 and the like.”</p>
<p>This is a bold statement.
Proof?</p>
<p>^ I completely disagree with that quote too Amazing. How is a degree from Psych and a minor in Accounting equivalent to a Business Economics with minor in Accounting? The coursework for Business Economics is completely different from Psychology. Also I’m pretty sure an employer from the “Big 4” would like someone with a business and accounting background rather than just an accounting minor.</p>
<p>Malishka31:</p>
<p>were you referring to me about biz econ…b/c i was talking about changing my current econ major to civil engineering (possible double major, meaning to keep econ, or if i double major my primary to be civil and i may think about switching my 2nd major major to biz econ…which i think is pretty possible)</p>
<p>Proof- internships matter more than your degree.</p>
<p>A couple of people i interened with had majors that had NOTHING to do with business. One was psych, another was history. A couple of people were even bio and nueroscie majors.</p>
<p>The ones that wanted to continue in the field (this was a consulting internship-business consulting)-easily landed jobs. The person that landed probably the best job out of the bunch had an accounting minor with a psych degree.</p>
<p>hmm thank you for the information. i right now am admitted as a psych major and will try to get into the accounting minor. wow i didn’t know that business and psych had any equivalence but i guess so. thanks again. any other info or argument against this will be very helpful. i’m trying to look for as much information as possible</p>
<p>Malishka is right, I worked at Deloitte & Touche’s LA office and many of the auditors had degrees in Political Science, History, etc. with a minor in accounting. My co-worker studied Public Policy and was working in the forensic accounting department. Her boss went to UCLA as a History major and minored in accounting.</p>
<p>what are the work hours at deloitte and touche and does an accounting minor at ucla all you need to get a job or do you need to have the best gpa with the accounting gpa courses?</p>
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<p>Does the bizecon degree count as business background? What exactly puts the BUSINESS in the business economics program? Looking at the curriculum of both the econ and the bizecon its exactly the same but econ majors take 7 UD econ electives and bizecon takes 5 UD econ electives + 4 UD management classes (+2 lower div accting). </p>
<p>[UCLA</a> Department of Economics](<a href=“http://www.econ.ucla.edu/undergraduate/majors/econ.html]UCLA”>http://www.econ.ucla.edu/undergraduate/majors/econ.html) econ curriculum
[UCLA</a> Department of Economics](<a href=“http://www.econ.ucla.edu/undergraduate/majors/bizecon.html]UCLA”>http://www.econ.ucla.edu/undergraduate/majors/bizecon.html) bizecon curriculum</p>
<p>If you look at the business electives that are available to bizecon majors, they are the exact same ones for the accounting minor. Now the accounting minor, requires a total of 7 UD management classes. This means if a bizecon major, does the bare minimum of 4 UD management classes than the person who has done the accounting minor has actually taken more business classes than just the normal bizecon major. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/documents/areas/prg/acct_minor/Fall2006Brochure.pdf[/url]”>http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/documents/areas/prg/acct_minor/Fall2006Brochure.pdf</a></p>
<p>Now lastly, does economics count as business background? Economics is considered a social science last time I checked. And what else is a social science? Psychology 
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<p>But I doubt it matters what your major is. You probably have the same chances to make it to the big four.</p>
<p>it is a well known fact that bizecon at ucla is just econ + accounting . Most of the bizecon folks minor in accounting because it is just a few extra classes.</p>
<p>You really do not get any business background from anything at UCLA except that accounting minor. </p>
<p>So if you just add the minor you have as much business background as a bizecon student. </p>
<p>You can major in math and land top of the line business related jobs. Same goes for physics and other sciences.</p>
<p>Businesses will teach how to do your job. If anyone thinks you need a business background for entry level you are very wrong. What they want you to learn is how to analyze a problem, no one expects you to actually know how to do most of the things off hand, you get training for everything, but if you have poor analysis skills then training will not help you.</p>