<p>How hard are these lab classes? What is taught there? Are the labs hard and do students need to do lab reports? How are labs graded-- based on accuracy and results? Do students work in groups?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Class/che133/%5B/url%5D">http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Class/che133/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Class/che134/%5B/url%5D">http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Class/che134/</a></p>
<p>Overall, they're pretty easy. Sometimes the labs are annoying, and on occasion things will take longer than allotted because of an equipment bottleneck (or your error...) but mostly, not bad. No lab reports, just pre-lab assigments, result summaries that you do in class, and maybe a post-lab graph for one or two labs. Accuracy and precision are part of how results are graded, and often you'll have to re-do the exercise until you get a low enough % deviation. You'll work in pairs a lot, and occasionally in groups of up to 4. Test exercises, which are worth 100 points (as opposed to 50 for normal exercises) are usually done alone.</p>
<p>The two links really help. I greatly appreciate this. However, it looks really hard to get an A. They seem to grade very tough. I am scared though I will look over the labs and procedures and hope to further my knowledge before school begins. I really want an A (not to sound selfish). What is that timer thing that students need to have? Also, students need to buy their own goggles? Do TA's help you if you are stuck during the experiment or do they start to deduct points if you have lots of questions? Are lab notebooks graded very stringently?</p>
<p>Timer? I have no idea what you're talking about.</p>
<p>The grading really isn't that harsh. Go to lecture, read the lab beforehand, do the pre-lab, and you're set. No worries.</p>
<p>Yeah, you need to buy your own goggles. They sell them in the bookstore; I recommend the slightly more expensive ones that they list for orgo lab because they're more comfortable and the extra few dollars is worth not wanting to claw them off your face all year.</p>
<p>TAs will help, and they don't deduct points for asking questions. During a test exercise they might not be willing to answer all of your questions, but test exercises are always the second time you'll be using a technique so you shouldn't have that many anyway.</p>
<p>My TAs never graded lab notebooks very strictly, but it depends on who you get.</p>
<p>Here is the link: <a href="http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Class/che133/require.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Class/che133/require.html</a>.</p>
<p>On the bottom of the page, they have a white timer looking thing next to the notebook (CPS RF). What is that and where can I get it? Also what is this: "Student Response System Pad and registration [only 1 such device is required for all courses]." Are spiral notebooks allowed?</p>
<p>that's not a timer. that's a cps response pad. it's a thingie that you use in class to answer questions. it's usually used in large lectures. the lecturer poses a question to the class and everyone answers via their 'response pads'. you register it online. you will get a registration code for the class in your first lecture.</p>
<p>Where can I buy it (cps response pad)? Are students graded on this, if say they got the wrong answer?</p>
<p>you can get it at the school bookstore.<br>
in certain classes, students are graded on this. it should say on the syllabus.</p>
<p>Is it usually graded in this chem class CHE 133, 134</p>