Cheated by our colleges...lie and you'll get in

<p>CC = worst case scenario? I vehemently disagree. Many good teachers at community colleges, and many, many successful students. I put myself and several colleagues with PhD’s among them (among the successful CC grads). California still has a great set up for CC students to transfer to CSU’s and UC’s. Select CC courses wisely and you will be well prepared for upper division work. </p>

<p>Another example of a successful CC graduate:
<a href=“Top graduating senior a rags-to-academic-riches story | Berkeley News”>http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2011/05/10/medalist2011/&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“Aaron Benavidez | Department of Sociology”>http://sociology.fas.harvard.edu/people/aaron-benavidez&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Yet another:
<a href=“Newsroom | UCLA”>http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/at-just-14-ucla-math-student-moshe-229359&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I am going to be honest: Why you didn’t get into the UC’s?<br>
SAT scores and your personality. </p>

<p>Your gpa appears inflated when compared to your SAT scores. This is an instant red flag that is immediately noticeable; it doesn’t match the GPA. Usually, they are pretty close.</p>

<p>The UC’s are getting kids with 2300’s and even some of those kids aren’t getting in. We just recently returned from a UCLA admitted student day for engineering majors: Average gpa 4.33, average SAT: 2320. Your 1680 was not competitive for the UC’s and especially not for USD. SDSU could not take a chance on you because: </p>

<p>Your personality comes across big time.
You are venting in a very nasty way. Telling people to lie is really hurtful. Most of the students who have posted on CC, who have been upset about their rejections are feeling hurt, but they don’t tell people to lie. I suspect that your personality came across that way to the adcoms. </p>

<p>Aunt bea I completely understand your argument. Stats were not so good. However, I do not think OP intended to sound nasty and I think OP was just upset at her college prospects. This situation sucks because people may not understand what a safety is. OP probably should have considered some Cal States or other lower stat school but its okay. CC and UC transfer is completely possible. This situation is not the end of the world. good luck</p>

<p>California CCs are pretty good. ANd I think you can get the Cal grants yet through CC exception. Start looking. Do well there and your transfer prospects may be quite good. I would get into the system as there are preferences for those going through the CC to the UCs and Cal States over a private school. Like I said, your state has some decent things in place. Take advantage of them. You may well end up where you want. </p>

<p>I don’t understand why people have bad feeling about CC. There is nothing wrong to go there and if you do well then transfer upward to a better school. Although the admission process is not transparent, I don’t see why any school to accept underachieved students without any special reason. So, whatever reason the student admitted with lower GPA and test score is, it has nothing to do with you.</p>

<p>One option is a gap year. If you do something interesting and also study for the SATs you might become a much stronger candidate.</p>

<p>@auntbea I can accept your criticism of me without losing sleep at night. I am a hard working student and I have always been that way. I have taken the SAT numerous times only to improve by 20-50 points if i’m lucky. My stats may not be where I wish they were but I can with confidence say that I gave it my all and I have nothing left on the table to give to these colleges. I do know people who have gotten into SDSU with lower GPAs(3.0s-3.4s). In fact the reason why I considered that school a safety school was because my AVID teacher told me Id have no issue getting in. He’s seen students with lower scores than me get in without a problem. And to claim that they saw something else in the other applicant is crazy because the CSU application is not holistic, it is all numbers and a major. Another reason why SDSU was my only safety school is because I have family priorities that refrain me from being able to move away from home. Nonetheless, should I have still attempted to venture off and go to a college that would without a doubt accept me? Of course! And because I didn’t do that, Ill have to live with that decision. ’
But lets not talk about personality. I made this thread partially to vent and partially to see if anyone else was or is currently in the same situation as me. None of this adds up and while many believe that the whole process of choosing a fake major is complete bs, I know that people are doing it. And you know what, they’re successful at it too. It is just my opinion verses someone else’s. The main restriction to changing majors is that the student must maintain a GPA of i believe a 3.0. That is all. And while I am not saying obtaining a 3.0 GPA is the easiest thing to do, there still isn’t much of a difficulty to change majors. </p>

<p>To end, thank you to all of the posts, both criticizing and encouraging. Applying to colleges is very stressful to say the least and it truly does bring out the worst in me. I never meant to offend anyone or even come off as rude in any of my posts. Just an average student wondering how this crazy thing called our university system works. </p>

<p>Is 4.06 your WGPA or your UCGPA? If it is your WGPA, then UCSD is a reach and UCD, UCI, UCSB are low reaches. If it is your UCGPA, then UCSD is a high match and UCD, UCI, UCSB are matches.</p>

<p>I was rejected by UCB, UCLA, and UCSD. I was waitlisted at UCD and UCI.
3.66 UWGPA, 4.00 UCGPA, 4.29 WGPA.
2300 SAT.
My GPA is below average and the UCs care much more about GPA than SAT scores, so I was rejected/waitlisted by them. I actually consider myself lucky because I know people with perfect test scores and close to perfect GPA who were only accepted by the mid-tier UCs.</p>

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<p>Other CSUs typically have average college GPAs under 3.0, according to <a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com”>http://www.gradeinflation.com</a> (see list at the bottom). So changing majors is not exactly a trivial task if the destination major requires a 3.0 or higher GPA.</p>

<p><em>CORRECTION</em> after much digging around, it seems as though it is the UC schools that state that: "Students who have a 3.0 or higher UC technical GPA are more likely to be approved. "</p>

<p>As for CSUs, preferably SDSU, I scavenged around the schools website and this was all that I was able to find in regards to changing majors. Ill post my link below.</p>

<p><a href=“Change/Declare Major | Office of the Registrar | SDSU”>http://arweb.sdsu.edu/es/registrar/changemajor.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If anyone else has seen something different on how one could change their major at CSU schools, please feel free to share the information.</p>

<p>Do talk to your advisor, guidance counselor. Maybe later you can talk to the admissions officer at SDSU when the crunch is over and find out what is going on here. </p>

<p>At certain schools, certain majors are over subscribed and changing from one of them to one where there is more space, or picking a favorable major is something applicants do, but you have to know what you are doing. Sometimes it can help, sometimes it makes no difference and sometimes it can hurt. So just blindly changing majors around is not recommended and I don’t know a school that will advise you on this kind of detail> Changing from a specific limited seating major like nursing to a more general major like Health, yes, could make a difference because those accepted to special career line majors are highly unlikely to move, whereas there is more movement in general majors. Political Science is one of those majors that is as general as they come, and it’s expected that student majoring in such subjects will change their minds. No big deal there. No big advantage most of the time changing to another arts and sciences type major either, unless you happen to find out there are some that are looking for seats. So, though kids do this, there is some method to the madness that you have to know.</p>

<p>To what major would you have switched anyways from Poli Sci, that you think would have given you an advantage? </p>

<p>Re: <a href=“Change/Declare Major | Office of the Registrar | SDSU”>http://arweb.sdsu.edu/es/registrar/changemajor.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>That link says that each department may set its own standards for changing into the major (or pre-major, which means that there is then an additional admissions gate to pass before entering the major).</p>