Cheating for the grades, Getting into good schools

<p>Am I the only idiot in my school? You decide.....
I try hard man, I try real hard with all the things in my life. What <strong><em>es me off is how much others cheat, just because their too lazy to stay up to 3am studying for 3 quizes. I would say 75% of those considered "smart" in my junior class cheat. I hate cheaters due to the fact some kids flat out fail, but they don't cheat. What really hurt me was two things this week, one was the fact a rampant cheater got a "morality award" at my school which really hurt me because of the fact I go to a Jesuit school and this kid is suppose to be an example for others. I oridinarily don't care about you cheating, because sooner or later and especially in the afterlife you will be punished for your sin. The other thing which got me even more was when my best friend tried to provide material to me twice to try to get me to cheat. He said "see mo its doesn't matter, waht matters is getting into good schools." This hurt me the most, because I truly meant it when I said to him before that "I love him more than a brother."
What *</em></strong>es me off more is the fact I got a rejectance letter for AP Economics next year despite writing the 2nd best letter (according to my sister an accountant major) the first was my best friend who took help from an outside source, a senior in the current economic class (you aren't aloud to use outside sources for responding to an article it says that). What *
**es me off EVEN MORE is the fact all these kids going to Geoergetown, University of Chicago, and NYU from my school cheated so much. It hurts me to know cheaters in life win, but it hurts me more to know that despite the fact I go to a Jesuit school, the place which prevented me from giving up on my parents, on my life, the place which reinspired God in me, that kids still cheat. I want to know then should I stop being an idiot and just go with the flow? I always held stongly to morality and I think I will, but right now I am so depressed, why shouldn't I cheat it decides my future right? I know kids who don't take $hitt in their bookbag home EVER but get 90 GPAs because they walk into class with others' things.</p>

<p>I really wish I could sentd a letter to one of those kids asking them how they feel about taking the spot of a person who earned it more than them in a college</p>

<p>Get a life it.....It happens everywhere you go. In college and if you can't deal with the fact that cheaters are doing better than you then cheat. I personally don't do it but i find myself generally doing better than them anyways. Or you can beat him up..hehe. That works great but i think you are just jealous and hate the fact that they are doing better than you.</p>

<p>yo, trust me...that cheating will get them so far, but eventually, they will get their butts kicked out of schools or when they get a job and they cheat like that, their careers will be in shambles. Don't worry about them. So what they cheat, thats their problem. They dont have any faith in themselves to learn themselves and resorted to cheating because they are insecure. but here is a hilarious story that might be interesting:
So, im in my AP Eng. class. Our teacher announces there is a pop quiz on a scene in Macbeth. (forgot which one).. so everyone is all mad and furious. however, a 2 periods earlier, a guy who sits next to me got the questions that are gonna be on the quiz. So, he writes the questions and the answers down small in his hands. So, back to the classroom. we get the quiz and it is dam hard. But the guy next to me is zooming through the quiz. I have no idea how, but my teacher has good eyes. He spots something in the guy's hand who sits next to me and says to the class, "STOP!!! everyone!!!! stand up please." we are like, "whats going on". my teacher then says," raise you hands, both of them and stretch and far as you can because i know you guys had a long day." The whole class, except the guy sitting next to me is stretching our hands and raising our hands. My teacher then comes up and says to the guy, "why arent you stretching?"
loong story short, the guy starts to cry his eyes out the second my teacher asks the question. he is sent to the office, he gets a referral, an F, and got 3 hours detention. </p>

<p>just focus on your own work. let them be. let them get caught.</p>

<p>i believe in karma and with cheaters, it will catch up to them
they may go to harvard from cheating, but who knows?
they might end up with 3 disfunctional children, they (the girls) might start balding at the age of 19, they may be in a big car crash and have to get their leg amputated, they might get raped and abused by their husbands... who knows?</p>

<p>It's all karma</p>

<p>^ HAHAHAHAH balding.</p>

<p>Instead of just passively seeing what's going on, report those students. Cheaters only get by with cheating when no one reports them.</p>

<p>In fact, in many honor systems, one is considered as much at fault as cheaters when one doesn't report them.</p>

<p>My experience as a former professor is that people who report cheaters are handled very discretely by the professors and teachers. If you have concerns about the cheaters learning that you reported them, do it anonymously giving all details so the teachers and administration can follow up. </p>

<p>Be the karma that you wish to see in the world. :)</p>

<p>Just remember, everything you know is solidly based. When you go to college where they ask you very difficult questions, you will still be standing, while they will be out on the streets.</p>

<p>PS: For t/f quizes and tests, just compress the answers into binary. So you only have to remember one number, like 9340 ;)</p>

<p>what does t/f mean?</p>

<p>true/false?? Pretty clever, sagar.</p>

<p>I'm in college and if I see a kid cheating to the point where it irks me a lot I will go out of my way to see it gets taken care of. I believe if you want to live with yourself you should be the change you wish to see in the world. I've felt bad about it but then I'm not the one who was doing the wrong.
My roommate also keeps joking that if I don't report the stuff I rant about then she'll make me, so it helps to have moral support.</p>

<p>gosh, I know exactly what you mean the only girl in my class going to an ivy league school next year is a huge cheater! Everyone laughed when she got in because Columbia just doesn't know what they are getting themselves into. She is pushy and obnoxious about copying, she will even take your work from you before you're done! Its evil, but I am excited to see her cut down to size next year!</p>

<p>from what i've seen cheaters in highschool tend to do pretty good in college. How bout that guy that cheated himself into Yale and got kicked out his senior year. He survived 3 entire years in a YALE.</p>

<p>^ <em>sigh</em> i'd like to spend atleast one year in Yale by cheating into it, even if i get kicked out soph year.</p>

<p>yes but i'd never do that. Cheating is bad. Karma is too scary..</p>

<p>Who cares if they get into Harvard and you get into some other school? Because you'll graduate at the top of your class wherever you go and they'll probably be kicked out for doing so miserably.</p>

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from what i've seen cheaters in highschool tend to do pretty good in college. How bout that guy that cheated himself into Yale and got kicked out his senior year. He survived 3 entire years in a YALE.

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Probably because everyone was just complaining behind his back and never did anything about it. Who's worse, the person who commits the injustice or the person who lets it slide?</p>