<p>" "Divide and conquer" is what the term is to finish homework! "
this is definintely a method at my hs, where some of my friends have easily split up hw and then handed each in individually, where the teacher simply put a check on each one w/o looking at the work. in instances like this, the busy work is completed and sure it may be wrong, but they are still learning the same amount by reading what everyone has written.</p>
<p>Codasco, you are lucky to have a school that has no busy work. Certain classes of mine do not, but that is only because the teacher actually understands the value of an education. For example, my English teacher based the year on English, not the AP exam or the NYS Regents. Those were merely two other tests that we simply had to take.</p>
<p>Soccerguy, awesome lake analogy.</p>
<p>It is when students mature and realize the importance of an education on their life, in college, that students will stop cheating.</p>
<p>Ever heard of Blair Hornstine?</p>
<p>mish<em>the</em>fish--are you implying that my teachers simply teach to an exam? (Don't think I'm taking a defensive approach to this, there just wasn't a better way to word it.) They don't. I took two AP classes this year: US Gov/Poli. and English Language. In both classes, the AP wasn't even mentioned until the last two weeks of the semester. Instead, the teachers made sure they taught us according to a very rigorous curriculum designed by the department with the intent to learn, not to get a 5.</p>
<p>It's very hard to "divide and conquer" at my school when the homework is all papers, reports, and projects.</p>
<p>I know this is mostly high schoolers/freshmen talking, but in my school (Lehigh Uni) there has been a lot of cheating in exams. In my bf's psych class final exam the kids at the back were whispering and copying off each other. In my friend's math final the guy next to her was taking the notes out of his bag and looking at them. The people behind her were showing each other their exams. I guess the classes are too big/teachers too blind, but if it's happening at a school like Lehigh, it probably happens at a lot of schools without an honor code (if Lehigh has one, we were never told about it).</p>
<p>It happens all the time. I've been in finals where kids pull out textbooks and lay them on the floor and start reading because the TA is either too lazy or too stupid to walk back and discover the cheating.</p>
<p>All in all, that one A could cost you your chance at finding a job or finding a graduate school.</p>
<p>So while I have seen the cheating (and lets face it...who hasn't cheated on a hw assignment in high school?) in high school, I would never recommend that anyone try it when the stakes are higher in college.</p>
<p>if i were in a competitive class where grades are curved, i would report cheating. i don't care if a person cheats themselves, but if their cheating affects my grades, you're right i'm gonna report them.</p>
<p>hahaha...I figure the best way to resolve those situations is to let them slide.</p>
<p>Eventually, every cheater gets caught and the later it happens, the harder they fall.</p>
<p>If you cheat at my school, someone will turn you in. As it should be. When the class average is curved to an 80%, or the average is lower with no curve, people aren't going to tolerate you getting one of the high grades without deserving it.</p>
<p>Mesaboogie, in HS if you turn people in for copying hw, you will be the one with no friends. At my school, if you are the one cheating, you will be the one with no friends. And likely finding yourself with no where to go to school.</p>
<p>My school gives unproctored exams all the time, as well as take home finals. Some schools have built the community of trust, and some have not.</p>
<p>Some kid posted on LJ about how they cheated on the IB chem exam this year... multiple people took screen shots and the information was sent to IBO multiple times, and they are looking into it heavily and have the posters IP address. These are people turning in someone else they have never even met. People from other countries turning this person in.</p>
<p>MAN...cheating was pretty rampant in my highschool....because teachers teach by Virginia SOLs and AP exams....in APUSH they had to go by both...so it's very limiting...furthermore, my school didn't have many resources to provide an above-average learning environment...teachers made the best of what they had...naturally there were many teachers that had been teaching for years and deviated from "teaching by the test." But there is the issue of the several lower class families from my area, where education is, sadly, not a top priority. The better test scores the school has, the more funding it gets....so teachers must emphasize teaching by the test so even those who perform poorly in school manage to pass the SOLs and qualify the school for further funding.</p>
<p>I know the other things constitute as cheating, but to me cheating basically means cheating on a test (by any means) and someone writing your paper. The way I see it is, the homework is just a review for the test. If you do the review, good for you, you'll be better prepared. If not, then that's your own fault. The test is what measures what YOU learned, so you shouldn't use someone else's mind.</p>
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Some kid posted on LJ about how they cheated on the IB chem exam this year... multiple people took screen shots and the information was sent to IBO multiple times, and they are looking into it heavily and have the posters IP address. These are people turning in someone else they have never even met. People from other countries turning this person in.
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<p>My GOD! Sure, if you sat there and watched the kid during the exam, that's one thing. But to turn in someone you don't know over the internet and giving IB his IP...that's just looking to cause trouble. Talk about a narc! Yeah, cheating IS NOT good and if you witness it you should turn it in. But this is flat out tattling as far as I am concerned.</p>
<p>He was asking to be turned in by posting it in an LJ though. If you don't want someone to find out, you don't post it.</p>
<p>Especially cheating on the IB exams. If it was "haha I cheated in my spanish class by writing the meaning of bueno on my hand" then nobody would care or report it but if its IB, they know EXACTLY who to send the evidence to and you had better believe they will do it.</p>
<p>Do you have a link to that livejournal entry? I would like to see it.</p>
<p>The above post made me remember a great moment from my Spanish class back in the 10th grade... One of the people in the class had a wonderful idea to write a bunch of notes all over his hand before a test. So whatever he was planning to cheat, the class was not on a curve and nobody really wanted to start any trouble...</p>
<p>Before the test started he decided to ask a question and rasied his hand. Well we all learned a lesson that day... If you want to cheat by writting answers all over your hand, that's your thing, whatever... However if you write answers on your hand, be sure not to rasie the hand with the notes to ask the question.</p>
<p>At my high school, the honor code is a joke. Only a few teachers actually make us sign the honor code before taking an exam. I've cheated on homework a lot of times, but I don't remember ever cheating on a test. It's too hard to cheat on tests. At the college that I'm going to, the honor code is taken VERY SERIOUSLY! Not ONE PERSON that I've talked to at Sweet Briar has taken the honor code lightly. As a result, there's virtually no crime on campus, and students leave their backpacks out in plain view. Of course, it's a campus with 700 girls and it's out in the middle of nowhere, but still... Yup, I might still cheat a bit in high school, but when I get to college- no sirree!</p>
<p>allena- that cracked me up</p>
<p>Along the lines of taking or not taking high school seriously:</p>
<p>Today at school the honor council announced a recent violation. A girl in my class (no name given, honor council keeps stuff anonymous) was accused of plagiarizing part of a final project in English (project used as an exam, worth 20% of your semester grade). A hearing was conducted and she was hound culpable. Consequently, she received an F in English and was asked to withdraw from school. She will NOT receive her diploma. Our school reports all violations to colleges, so she will not be able to attend college in the fall, even if she gets her GED. If she does wants to get a GED she must re-take English over the summer and will then be forced to go to a community college in the fall. This will be especially hard for her since 100% of seniors at my school graduate and all 100% go to 4-year colleges.</p>
<p>So, cheating in HS HAS to be taken seriously. It can realllllyyyy screw you.</p>
<p>CasperLoveUCs,</p>
<p>Him getting cought was funny enough, but what to this day stands out in my mind is the look on the teachers face. You could tell she was mad, but more then anything I think she wanted to slap him.</p>
<p>She wouldnt really have to take classes because if the school is that hardcore, I would hope that the seniors are capable of passing the GED tests.</p>
<p>But still, that is hardcore...</p>
<p>We're all more than capable to pass....but there's some weird requirement by school/community college/ state law that says she has to re-take english in order to qualify for a GED.</p>