<p>^ … getting caught and being ratted out are two completely different things.</p>
<p>olleger, from your tone of your post , i would have to say you’re guilty of cheating yourself.</p>
<p>Congratulations OP, want a cookie? Nope, you don’t get a cookie. In actuality, you don’t get anything for your act of probity. Sorry… Well not really.</p>
<p>I mean, you might get to re-take another version of the AP Stats test during the summer for a reduced price! Awesome!!!</p>
<p>^^ I clearly stated that I have cheated in the past. The usual copying HW when you didn’t have time to do it or asking what topics were on a test you forgot to study for. But that’s some real detective work you did there to figure that out…</p>
<p>A. Everyone cheats, get over it. The entire stats class from our crosstown school had a program that had all the formulas and conditions.</p>
<p>B. It’s stats… how can you not get a 5?</p>
<p>^ LOL this whole time I thought this was about BC. Yeah scratch that part about how I did well on the AP Stats test, I was talking about BC = p.</p>
<p>Calling the OP an “*******” and a “loser” was uncalled for. olleger, and as for the person who needs to grow up is not the OP, it’s YOU.</p>
<p>“But that’s some real detective work you did there to figure that out.”</p>
<p>Uh, you’re creepy. As it turns out, I do work for the FBI. How on earth did you figure out my job?</p>
<p>My school’s valedictorian cheated her way through high school, stole my Spanish binder so that I couldn’t study (not that I ever did study for the class, but that’s besides the point), and never took an honest state exam in her life.</p>
<p>And yet, she’s ended up going to a local tier 3 school after being rejected everywhere else, and I’m going to Harvard. So while reporting the cheating may have been pure in intention, it was certainly not pragmatic. </p>
<p>Things will catch up to them; don’t worry. You’d just better hope no one from your school figures out who you are if all scores are invalidated.</p>
<p>I think what’s extremely funny is that the one person who keeps making insults about not having friends seems to be spending an awful lot of time in this thread, as if they have nothing better to do. :p</p>
<p>^^^… riiiiiiiight…</p>
<p>^ It’s a Wednesday afternoon. Sorry if I’m not necessarily hitting up the clubs like your popular self.</p>
<p>The act of informing the college board was not unethical, at least not idealistically. But how would you feel if everyone’s scores were invalidated? The girls won’t affect the curve, but by if your action ends up denying the people who didn’t do anything wrong the fruits of their labor, then it was you who made the mistake.</p>
<p>My argument is utilitarian. By not “snitching,” you perform a much greater good in protecting others hard work. Hopefully the scores aren’t invalidated.</p>
<p>Frankly, if two obnoxious overachievers were cheating on everything and doing better than me because of it, I would report them too. If I saw to random people cheating, would I report them? Of course not. But under the circumstances… I would derive a lot of pleasure from pulling the mask off of two arrogant frauds. OP’s the man.</p>
<p>“Failed attempt at a joke right there I guess.”</p>
<p>Says you, but you know what? I don’t care. I don’t even know you so your opinion counts for nothing. Your opinion is more worthless than a car without its engine.</p>
<p>^^ Am I missing something? … Wait the 2 girls weren’t random people?!</p>
<p>^ I wholeheartedly agree. In your life I am insignificant. I can’t argue otherwise.</p>
<p>I guess Hahalolk has a valid point that this could lead to possible invalidation of all the other 10 AP Stats scores. Although hopefully ETS can discern from the cheaters and the non-cheaters.</p>
<p>The girls are not random people, they’re rank 13 and rank 17 in our school of 200 in which they cheated their way there.</p>
<p>I know they’re not random people. They’re notorious, arrogant cheaters. Hence my post.</p>
<p>^^^ but were they “two obnoxious overachievers?” Because frankly that changes things.</p>
<p>^ In that case, I agree with Drought. This whole time I thought we were talking about telling on two random people… But if they are obnoxious and arrogant about cheating… then that I guess justifies the ratting. </p>
<p>However I hold my postion that if they were random people or did not boast about their grades due to cheating, then I believe that was unnecessary.</p>
<p>^^^For some reason, your post made me smile.</p>
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<p>And how do you propose they do that? Playing Jumangi?</p>
<p>For the sake of English, please put the question mark on the outside of the quote if you are quoting a term. </p>
<p>She asked “Did you see my keys?”
Did you just call me a “moron”?</p>
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<p>I disagree, 100% with putting the blame on him for others’ scores being invalidated.
- If the girls never cheated, it wouldn’t have ever been a problem. In a similar situation, if one of the girls’ cell phone rang during the exam, wouldn’t everybody’s exam be invalidated? Whose fault is that? THEIRS. They did the deed, they caused whatever repercussions may arise.
- It’s the College Board’s rule to invalidate tests in such a situation. Not markus’. Why should he be blamed for the College Board’s policy of invalidation? He shouldn’t.</p>
<p>That’s like saying that the blame for somebody being put into prison should fall on the victim, since they ratted the criminal out. It makes no sense. </p>
<p>All markus has done is report the incident. The rest, including invalidation of tests, is completely out of his hands.</p>