<p>How long are you going to have this car? For like the short term, leasing is better. However, the longer you're going to have the car, the more you should think of buying (because of being able to sell the car back).</p>
<p>Not to rain on everyone's parade, but does it bother anyone else that this thread is continually at the top of the business-major part but has nothing to do with business.</p>
<p>Well, considering about 70% of threads in this subforum are identical versions of each other I don't think it's a very big deal.</p>
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Mazda Miata conv. is leasing for a damn good price. Is this too chic or what?
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<p>I personally, wouldn't lease but since you only want the car for 3-5 years I guess it would be okay. The problem in that for me is that you are putting down money, but if have nothing to show for at the end. I said that the miata is a chick car, but I guess it would be okay. As VectorWega said, it handles pretty nicely. You won't get much power out of it, but you've said yourself that you are not trying to win any races. Check it out In person if you can and see if you like it. I can't say if it is too chick for you. You know your tastes better than I do.</p>
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Because they stopped production in 2002, and people who think they can "race" continue destroy them. The Supra is going extinct.
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No, not really.</p>
<p>Of the Japanese sports cars, you rarely saw Supra's at local events. It's just not built for it.</p>
<p>Despite far less production, and more expensive price, the NSX is a more frequent club racer than the Supra.</p>
<p>Well, I guess I don't know what you're talking about by local events. I used to see more Supras at street races 3 to 5 years ago, but availability is limited. You can barely find them. I know 5 people who have totaled supras, so that is why I said what I said. As far as the NSX, I NEVER see them. I think I've seen maybe two in the last three years. Maybe it varies with location.</p>
<p>I think I was the one who said the Miata is a great handling car--because it is, it's arguably the best mass-produced handling vehicle under the C6 pricepoint of the mid-40s. Unless you're counting the Elise, which is a very difficult daily driver. It is considered a chick car, and if he's getting this car for aesthetic reasons I probably wouldn't go for an MX5. If I had expendable cash, and I lived in areas with super windy roads, I'd buy a cheap used last generation Miata just to drive around on the weekends.</p>
<p>Payne is right, the NSX was overpriced but beloved in the used market because of what you could do with it with a supercharger. 6 month old NSXs used to go for 30%-50% off MSRP in the used markets, and people would buy them and immediately make minor modifications to turn them into beasts. They are rare, and they were like the inverse of the C5--engine modifications instead of suspension modifications, but both were pretty much ready to be tracked the second you purchased them. A terribly underrated car, but Honda didn't help it by overpricing it and not bolting something on even if they had to sell it as some "S" edition.</p>
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Well, I guess I don't know what you're talking about by local events. I used to see more Supras at street races 3 to 5 years ago, but availability is limited. You can barely find them. I know 5 people who have totaled supras, so that is why I said what I said. As far as the NSX, I NEVER see them. I think I've seen maybe two in the last three years. Maybe it varies with location.
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Sorry, I'm referring to club racing or hot lapping at an open track event. You rarely see Supras at those events. BMWs, Miatas, Mustangs, RX-7s, Corvettes, Porsches, Vipers, NSXs - those are the types of cars that one commonly sees.</p>
<p>Okay, I don't really do "official" events in the car. I guess thats why I don't see the NSX often. The average joe doesn't drive one.</p>
<p>You're from California? Do you know anything about track days for motorcycles at laguna seca? I can't find ANY information. With NESBA, we do a lot of days at road atlanta, Barber, VIR etc but I would LOVE to get a chance to run at a MOTO GP track.</p>
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You won't get much power out of it,
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<p>The MX-5's 0 to 60 speed is about the same as the V6 Mustangs...it's just much lighter and doesn't need as much power (this 0 to 60 speed has increased a lot for the MX-5 over past generations). And if you have hills...an MX-5 will fly up them.</p>
<p>As for buying a past Miata...i say pooh to that idea. There is a reason the miata has had a reputation as a "chick" car and the past generations are why. The new version looks much more stylish and is more appealing to men than the past versions.</p>
<p>ehh...you won't get much power out of a v6 mustang either.</p>
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As for buying a past Miata...i say pooh to that idea. There is a reason the miata has had a reputation as a "chick" car and the past generations are why. The new version looks much more stylish and is more appealing to men than the past versions.
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I was going to disagree with this until I remembered what the new Miata looked like, and as I drove next to one this morning for about 30 minutes. The new generation is a big step up (if you're someone with the opinion that old ones were chick cars, anyway). Miatas also really aren't even close to V6 Mustangs as far as credibility in racing, there are plenty of 8 year old stock Miatas that would destroy supercharged V8 Mustangs with reworked suspensions and a stripped interior. It's just the nature of more precise handling cars being superior in anything other than a straight line, and the reason why the C6 is so amazing stock to me (and some other people) is that it is arguably the closest representation of perfect I've ever seen under $100,000 of a power:weight v. handling balance.</p>
<p>As an aside to the C6 statement, I like the Z06, but it's more difficult to drive, and I suspect the ZR1 will be very, very difficult to track for anyone but the very experienced. People don't understand how big a problem a beast engine can be when you're racing competitively, and as much as I like the fact that Mercs are basically big engines with four wheels, a body and some seats attached, there's a reason they can't really be tracked even against last generation Civics.</p>
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ehh...you won't get much power out of a v6 mustang either.
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<p>"Power" is relative, and since the threadstarter is considering buying a v6 mustang convertible, this is a valid comparison.</p>
<p>How group based in your job.</p>
<p>Do you work alone, or do you work with other people.</p>
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You're from California? Do you know anything about track days for motorcycles at laguna seca? I can't find ANY information. With NESBA, we do a lot of days at road atlanta, Barber, VIR etc but I would LOVE to get a chance to run at a MOTO GP track.
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<p>I'm not in the motorcycle scene, but one of these forums could help you out.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.big-boards.com/kw/motorcycles/%5B/url%5D">http://www.big-boards.com/kw/motorcycles/</a></p>
<p>My friend said Seca is overrated though. Better to go to Buttonwillow. Or Willow Springs.</p>
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As an aside to the C6 statement, I like the Z06, but it's more difficult to drive, and I suspect the ZR1 will be very, very difficult to track for anyone but the very experienced. People don't understand how big a problem a beast engine can be when you're racing competitively, and as much as I like the fact that Mercs are basically big engines with four wheels, a body and some seats attached, there's a reason they can't really be tracked even against last generation Civics.
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<p>I'm trying to decide between C6 w/Z51, C5 Z06, & E46 M3. Talk about a decision.</p>
<p>The C6 is such a big step-up from the C5, even if it is a Z06, that it's really difficult to justify getting the C5 over the C6. As for the M3, well, yeah--that would be a difficult choice considering both cars are so balanced.</p>
<p>C5 Z06 is faster than all C6 nonz06's except the 08 with the new LS block
my order: C5 Z06> E46 M3 > C6</p>
<p>Which do you think is better mercedes or BMW? I think mercedes are actually ugly but ppl get them just bc, but BMW is such a better looking car.</p>
<p>lol lssd2012 actually had an Actuary related question.</p>