Chem 6bl

<p>My AP Chem teacher had said that at some colleges, showing my AP Chem manual, which includes all completed labs, will fulfill the Chem lab requirement. I was wondering if this works at UCSD for Chem 6BL. </p>

<p>The topics covered in AP Chem lab are</p>

<li> Percentage composition</li>
<li>Empirical and molecular formulas from experimental data</li>
<li>Molar masses from gas density, freezing-point, and boiling-point measurements</li>
<li>Gas laws, including the ideal gas law, Dalton’s law, and Graham’s law</li>
<li>Stoichiometric relations using the concept of the mole; titration calculations</li>
<li>Mole fractions; molar and molal solutions</li>
<li>Faraday’s law of electrolysis</li>
<li>Equilibrium constants and their applications, including their use for simultaneous equilibria</li>
<li>Standard electrode potentials and their use; Nernst equation

<li>Thermodynamic and thermochemical calculations</li>
<li>Kinetics calculations</li>
</ol></li>
</ol>

<p>Thanks in advance for your replies :)</p>

<p>petition with your lab notebook. i'm not sure if a lab manual will work. i know for sure that a lab notebook will. they'll review it and tell you whether or not your AP chem was equivalent to 6bl</p>

<p>take it to the chem office (york 4010) to start the process.</p>

<p>what's the difference between a lab notebook and manual? i had to type my labs and turn that in... would that work?</p>

<p>a manual's like the textbook for the lab class -- a notebook's what you wrote in ... you didn't learn how to write reports in AP chem? weird.</p>

<p>WHAT??? YOU CAN PETITION OUT OF CHEM 6BL??? </p>

<p>I brought my graded lab reports from AP Chem down in case they'd be useful for the actual Chem 6BL class. Would this work? I have 24 experiments in them.</p>

<p>yup, do as stated above.</p>

<p>Sick I guess I'll hear back from them in 3 or so weeks...</p>

<p>Thanks for the replies :)</p>

<p>It depends on the hours spent in a laboratory. If you didn't spend at least 6 hours a week, you won't get it.</p>

<p>I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's correct.</p>

<p>uh ... there are NO AP chem classes that could even come close to 6 hours a week in lab. you have to realize that there are only 60 hours total allocated for lab in chem 6bl - spread this over the course of a normal school year (36 weeks) and it's really not that much.</p>

<p>6 hours a week???? That would be absolutely ridiculous. My AP Chem class had a mandatory 6 week summer session, and we only did 5 hours a week max in the summer where our classes were 4 hours a day. Also remember the Chem 6BL is a quarter while AP Chem is a whole year. 6 hours a week in a lab would be kind of excessive.</p>

<p>Right, that's why I haven't heard of an AP Lab being excepted as of yet.</p>

<p>they have. my friend stephanie and my roommate denise both got it.</p>

<p>...as did several friends from my hs who came to ucsd.</p>

<p>you're probably in ap chem for 5 hours a week...it'd be redonkulous to require 6 hrs/week for lab alone. we spent an average of 1-2 hrs/week in lab...for a couple weeks (when we were going over molecular geometry) we wouldn't have a lab, but other weeks (acids/bases, thermochem, etc.) we'd be in lab every day.</p>

<p>I just went to York 4010 to submit my chem lab notebook for review to place out of 6bl and they said that they were only accepting notebooks of those who received scores of 5 on the ap test. They said this is a newly implemented policy. When I initially went there, one of the guys said ok, just fill out that green petition from. Then, somebody from the back room yelled out, "Wait wait wait. Did you take AP Chemistry?" I said, "Yes." He said, "What did you get?" I said, "A 4." He said, "Sorry, we only accept notebooks of people who received 5s." I could tell he was kinda unsure about it. There must be another way around this or for them to make an exception. My lab notebook is excellently structured and my experiments were well documented. No obliterations. All cross-outs were indicated with a neat line going across what was to be ignored. What should I do?</p>

<p>file a petition - that's a dumb rule, and both the people i know who got 6BL waived got 4s</p>

<p>Did your friends file and get waived for 6bl recently? I told them that I know somebody that got waived with a 4 and they said, this rule has just been implemented. I'm filing anyway.</p>

<p>this was back in 2002/2003, but i think it's a really stupid rule. i didn't know that you could waive lab reports, so i went ahead and took chem 6BL like a good little student ... and what did it net me? boredom beyond tears, putting up with inept lab parters who refused to fill their own burets, and i did less than half the work of my non-AP-alum-classmates and still managed to walk out with an A+.</p>

<p>so in short: sure, i enjoyed the grade (and confidence) boost, but there were many other things i could have been doing with my time. </p>

<p>other schools that allow petitioning of AP credit for a chem class will typically allow you to waive the lab as well, since many colleges combine lab with lecture into a single class. just because UCSD has a funny habit of separating lab classes doesn't mean that they should hold you to a different standard.</p>

<p>chem 6BL is a gauge of one's laboratory skills, NOT command of general chemistry. <em>that</em> was already determined by the outcome of your AP chem exam. if anything, argue that they can throw you in a 6BL lab and you can walk around and demonstrate perfect knowledge of how to use a buret/volumetric flask/spectrophotometer -- that's what 6BL is supposed to teach you.</p>