Chem AP for a premed--scheduling help

<p>So I'm majoring in bioengineering and also doing premed at penn this fall. I know what I'm doing for math, physics, and BE, but chem is confusing me now.</p>

<p>As I understand it I have to take a placement test to get full credit for chem. Firstly, does it make sense for a premed to try to AP out of chem 101? I was very comfortable with the material, so I don't see why not, but my bigger concern was how will I make a schedule not knowing what chem class I will be taking-- will a lot of classes fill up in the priority registration even though theyre mostly large intro classes?</p>

<p>Eh, I'm just a bit confused, but any opinions are greatly appreciated. thanks!</p>

<p>don't worry, you won't have a problem getting into 101 or 102 if / when you need to</p>

<p>You cannot AP out of Chem 101. You have to take a placement test to get out of either Chem 101 or Chem 102 with your AP credit. No SEAS student will be blocked out of SEAS Chem 101. You might not get into your first choice time, but you will get into one of them.</p>

<p>so i should just wait until i take the placement test to make my entire schedule?</p>

<p>Sign up for Chem 53. Last year there was a huge waitlist for it and you might not get your first choice for time. You might want to hold off on Chem 101 vs 102, but try to have a slot open for each.</p>

<p>waitlist... <em>shudder</em></p>

<p>thanks for the advice, i'm definitely trying to avoid the "W" word for the rest of my life</p>

<p>^ then premed is a very bad idea</p>

<p>I'm a B.A. Biomed Major.
Pre-med requirements as I understand include 2 semesters of general chemistry.
Do I still have to take Chem 053/54 labs if I test out of Chem 101/102?</p>

<p>Here's my schedule for advance registration.</p>

<p>BE100
MATH114 (AP credit for MATH 104)
PHYS150
CHEM053
ECON001</p>

<p>it only adds up to 5 cu. Can I take CHEM054 at the same time and just get it over with?</p>

<p>no, you don't want to take 053 and 054 simultaneously, especially since be 100 has a few lab / experiments too, and phys 150 has lab as well</p>

<p>In general you still need 2 semesters of gen chem if you are premed. If you do not wish to take Chem 101 you can either take the honors section (chem 15) or take physical chemistry your junior year.</p>

<p>Well, since we're talking about chemistry:</p>

<p>So I know for Chem 101 we need both lecture and recitation. But for labs, do we need to register for lecture that's with lab (like Chem-053-001 required with Chem-053-101)? This is probably a stupid question, but to me it just seems weird that it's like having 2 lectures, 1 recitation, and a lab for Chem overall.</p>

<p>You need the lecture. No one goes and you don't really gain anything except for the exam reviews.</p>

<p>It seems like a big hassle to take the placement tests for CHEM 101/102 and getting lab waivers and such. Even though I got a 5 on the AP test and got CHEM 091 credit, should I just forgo taking the chem placement tests and just take the intro chem classes again? It seems like a lazy thing to do, but would this be better than trying to get ahead and getting burned with lower grades in the more advanced chemistry courses? (I did hear that the chem department has the lowest curves and grading ends up being generally hostile towards pre-meds because of the need to have a high gpa for med school admission)</p>

<p>^I got a 5 in chemistry and felt that I had more than enough understanding to pass out. I decided to take 101 and 102 again anyway. They were much tougher and covered a lot more material than I learned in high school (especially chapters 4-6). You learn more information and go a little more in depth. If you feel up to the challenge, take 15 instead. My friends in it liked it, but felt that it took a lot of time and work.</p>

<p>for those entering in the fall, when did you get your Chem AP scores? I'm still waiting for mine!</p>

<p>Collegeboard sent most of them out over the weekend. You should be getting them in the mail this week. You might also try checking Penn Intouch; if you got any scores that Penn awards credit for, the credit will be listed in your transcript.</p>