<p>In my high school, we never cleaned any equipment. How are you not in danger when your washing acids off glassware with your bare hands?</p>
<p>As for physical and analytical chem, do chemE have to take those classes? I don't see how one lab could take SIX hours. And do the professors or TA help you do the lab and clean up?</p>
<p>I don't know how to respond to that, really. You think that general chemistry labs are gonna subject students to potentially dangerous chemicial without safety protocols? Have you never heard of GLOVES, dude? </p>
<p>I think you're just gonna have to accept the fact that college lab are not gonna be the same as your high school labs and that you're in for some surprises.</p>
<p>I'm a chemE major, too. I think it depends your school; at my school, you only take pure chemistry courses until organic and then move to chemical engineering classes.</p>
<p>I'm in hs and I always have to clean up after labs, your teachers are not like your personal servants. geez. It's not that hard.</p>
<p>Does these ChemE courses include labs too? </p>
<p>Whats the point of labs anyways? So you can write lab reports? Can't the professors just give your the data and you can write the report? I don't see how most people will ever need to use lab skills except for research.</p>
<p>Well I don't think it has much to do with me remembering...I just dicked around too much sophomore year. I got serious about grades junior/senior year. That's why I'm nervous...</p>
<p>I'm going to be an MechEng major, so how does "Chemistry applied to Engineering Disciplines" differ from the regular "General Chemistry" class? All I know is that the chemistry class for engineering is supposed to be very hard.</p>
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I wish I went to your high school. :D That is completely unheard of in mine.</p>
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Hiko, what are you majoring in? If it's something like English or History, then I wouldn't be surprised by your question. But if you're majoring in sciences/engineering, then lab skills are of utmost importance.</p>
<p>For engineering how is a chem lab important? When will you EVER Need to Perform an ACTUAL Chemical Lab? I mean sure you need to learn the chemistry but the technical parts of the labs is pretty useless.</p>
<p>because theoreticals are just that. And an engineer has to be able to do the practical as well</p>
<p>What if you're not doing chemE and instead doing compE? How would a chem lab help them? They should just learn how to build computers not mixing chemicals.</p>
<p>why would you have to do a chemistry lab for a computer science major????? (unless for gen ed)</p>
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<p>There is no college lab in the US where anyone is going to clean up for you. Not chem lab, not bio lab, not physics lab, nothing. You're an adult now. You will always have to clean up your own stuff. There is no lab fairy. </p>
<p>And at the end of the semester when you check your glassware back into the chem stock room, if it is not clean enough you will be charged money for it.</p>
<p>As for the "one lab taking six hours" -- often you wouldn't just be doing one experiment during those six hours. For example, you might start a particular reaction, let it bubble away for a few hours, and in the meantime complete another task.</p>
<p>I've always found college labs very helpful, and not just in the "technical skills" sense. Doing a particular procedure, and understanding why you're doing all the steps, can help you understand material in your other science classes.</p>
<p>Lab skills are something you will need for any science or engineering course. There are other lab skills besides titrations. Being able to do a set amount of work in a limited amount time teaches you how to be efficient, how to be prepared for comples tasks, and how to think under pressure, skills that are useful in any discipline.</p>
<p>Hiko, I am a social science major who has only taken the most general of science courses to complete my GEs. I am so glad my school made me do them because I probably would have never thought to take them on my own. The point of being required to take classes outside your major is to broaden your mind and help you see the world differently, in other words, to educate you. We cannot become experts in everything, but we can at least develop an appreciation for subjects not our own. </p>
<p>And, unlike grade school, professors do not have their own classrooms or labs. The same room may be used by as many as 10 different classes a day, and it is only courteous to clean up your stuff so the students in there after you don't get hurt and have a clean working environment, just as you would want the person before you to clean up after himself. </p>
<p>Just out of curiousity, did the teachers at your high school wash acids off of glassware with their bare hands?</p>
<p>"Lab skills are something you will need for any science or engineering course. There are other lab skills besides titrations. Being able to do a set amount of work in a limited amount time teaches you how to be efficient, how to be prepared for comples tasks, and how to think under pressure, skills that are useful in any discipline."</p>
<p>Are labs supervised?</p>
<p>HikoSeijuro, YOU ARE NOT IN HIGH SCHOOL ANYMORE. Grow up. Nobody is going to baby you in college.</p>
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How are you not in danger when your washing acids off glassware with your bare hands?
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Ask your mom/babysitter/daycare/etc about how come they are not in danger when washing dishes after eating food.</p>
<p>we are playing right into his hands...</p>
<p>"Ask your mom/babysitter/daycare/etc about how come they are not in danger when washing dishes after eating food."</p>
<p>Never washed dishes before. The danger comes from the chemicals.</p>
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<p>Yes, often by TAs or lab instructors. At my school, lab instructors are usually upperclassmen who have taken the class already; there are usually also junior faculty who supervise.</p>