<p>I heard because Chicago is not as selective as the Ivy Leagues but is on the same par, it is a popular safety school. Is this true?</p>
<p>yes</p>
<p>except no grade inflation. not really a "safety" in that ivy is prestige=success, while uchicago is study-your-ass-off=success</p>
<p>Just wondering, which school offers a better undergrad education: Chicago or U Penn?</p>
<p>Depends on the field (obviously Penn would be the choice for undergrad business although Chicago has a top 10 graduate program), but as a general rule people consider Chicago to have one of the most rigorous undergraduate programs in the country. You'll certainly get your money's worth at either of the schools, and it really comes down to which environment you like better.</p>
<p>Chicago is more self-selective than the Ivies; people don't apply in droves because it's mass work.</p>
<p>if students get bad grades at chicago.. why do ppl still want to go there?</p>
<p>Princetonwannabe,</p>
<p>Because what merit is lost numerically is more than made up for philosophically.</p>
<p>Exactly. I applied to Chicago because I'm tired of high school grademongering.</p>
<p>sandman, it depends what you want to study for your Penn v. Chicago question. I go to school near Penn and know a lot about it. </p>
<p>I will tell you that Penn's liberal arts departments are sub-par, and even Penn will admit it. For almost any subject that is NOT pre-professional, I'd say Chicago has more to offer.</p>
<p>I second wondering's opinion, and I would go one step further and say that because Penn is essentially a professional school (albeit an excellent one) and not much else, I rank Chicago more highly. But that depends on how you view the purpose of college.</p>
<p>How bad is the grade deflation? I want to go to grad school or law school. Now I am scared that I won't be able to take the low grades. I am so used to easy straight-A's.</p>