Child vs Parents

Hello, my name is Josh Kyei and I am a senior in high school going through a lot of trouble. I have applied to 8 schools: NCA&T, Howard, Morehouse, NC State, Georgia Tech, UNC-Chapel Hill, Wake Forest, and George Washington University.

Ultimately, I was the most interested in the HBCUs and I want to choose Morehouse for undergrad. I got the most money there and I believe it would be really good experience. My biggest opposition is my parents, however. They don’t want me to go to a small school like that and would rather have me go to a bigger school, like NC State. Being honest, I was never that interested in NC State and I applied there because they wanted me to. I want to have them understand that Morehouse is where I really wnt to go, but they keep getting mad at me. I started a GoFundMe to help in the process for the enrollment fee, but I’m scared I’ll end up having to go somewhere I m not interested in. Please help!

What are your net costs at each school? How much are your parents willing/able to pay? You need your parents to complete financial aid paperwork every year and to pay whatever your net cost is. If you raise the enrollment fee through Go Fund Me, which is unlikely, how would you pay for tuition, room &board, and transportation to/from school for 4 years?

Yeah I hate to break it to you but if your parents won’t agree with you it’d be a stretch

Were you accepted to all of the schools that you applied to? One thing I realized early on with my daughter was to not have conflict about something that has not been confirmed. Sure we’ve had conversations but not until all offers are in hand do we sit down and determine what is best, not for just her but for the family as a whole and that may take some compromise on both sides.

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The net cost for Morehouse is currently about 14,000. Scholarships re still coming in. The net cost for NC State is 20,000. My FAFSA has already been filled out. I got accepted to NC State, Howard, Morehouse, A&T, and George Washington.

Being honest, Morehouse is the best choice financially.

Unfortunately for you, your parents have all of the power in this decision.

Do you know why they want you to attend NCSU instead of Morehouse even though Morehouse is less expensive? I.e. why do they think that the bigger school is better?

What do you like about Morehouse? Why do you think it will be a better experience than NCSU?

I know my dad wants me to go to a bigger school because his logic was that I would get many connections from around the world and say if I got a teacher and I didn’t like that teacher, I could switch for someone else. My mom is just biased towards HBCUs in general.

I like Morehouse because it’s an HBCU catered for males, their support system is great, the culture there is vibrant and distinct, and the students that do go there are said to come out with many connections and become very successful.

Time for some adulting here. “I want” won’t get you where you want to go.

  1. After the last scholarship comes in make a table of all your choices, with actual net costs. Make a pros / cons list for each school and set it aside.

  2. Find a time to talk to your parents that is as calm as possible. Ask them what they think the pros and the cons of each school are. PAY ATTENTION. Listen-hard- to what they are saying, and listen -hard- to what they might be feeling but not saying. Your goal in this is NOT to come up with counter arguments but to try and understand what is important to them- and why. Thank them for talking it through and tell them you are going to think about what they have said.

  3. Then do that: go think about it. Which of their points feel the most valid to you? which of their points link to something that is important to them / who they are / where they came from?

  4. Go back to your original pros/cons list and re-read it in light of what you have learned from your parents. Re-write it (if nothing has changed, you haven’t done #2 & #3 properly!). Be honest with yourself about why each variable is important to you (some of your friend group is going to option a? own it. your arch-rival is going to option a? own it)

  5. Take your re-written pros/cons list, and go back to your parents. Acknowledge the points that they made that make sense to you. (If relevant), acknowledge that there are factors that are important to them that are less meaningful to you. Make your case thoughtfully.

As a graduate of a large PWI, while your Parent’s concerns are valid, in the real world I will tell you that the HBCU network is way stronger for college graduates of color. That’s why I wanted my son to at least consider an HBCU. It is ultimately his choice, but I would never totally rule out an HBCU now that I am a PWI alum… Just an adult perspective.

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I’m late to this party so I’m assuming that Josh has already decided, but going to lay my experience here for other students who may find this thread.

Like you, I considered several colleges in the Southeast, including both HBCUs and PWIs. Much like you, I got advice from caring and well-meaning adults in my life that I should perhaps consider a “bigger” school. In some cases, they really meant a bigger school; in other cases, “bigger” was code for “whiter”. My dad really wanted me to go to Georgia Tech, and my mother wanted me to go to Emory.

I think it came from a place of care. After all, African Americans do face significant disadvantages, and it’s logical to assume that extends to graduates of black colleges. A lot of parents and adults believe that smart, accomplished black students would benefit a lot from have access to the same resources and networks that their white peers (often wealthier, always unburdened by racial disadvantages) will have through a college like UNC, Wake Forest, GWU, or Tech.

I fell in love with Spelman for the same reasons you fell in love with Morehouse - it was a place that was made especially for students like me (young black women of color), the culture was vibrant and distinct, and the students seemed to find success in many fields. I loved my experience at Spelman; I would never change going there for the world.

HBCUs are disproportionately responsible for producing black professionals across many fields - doctoral degree holders, physicians, engineers and other science majors, and others - despite having proportionately less support and funding, on average, than predominantly white institutions.

More than that, though, what my HBCU experience gave me was an opportunity to see myself in a variety of roles and imagine myself as a successful professional. Before I attended Spelman, I didn’t know any black scientists or doctors and didn’t even know black people could be scientists. At Spelman, I had many black professors - and our president was a black woman with a PhD in psychology - expanding my idea of what a black person “could be”. I remember seeing our president speak for the first time at freshman convocation and deciding right then I wanted to get a PhD, too. (And I did - in her field, even.)

As an HBCU grad, I have an enormous network - not just of the grads from Spelman and the AUC but from HBCUs in general. We tend to look out for each other in formal and informal networks. I know MANY black professionals in my not-very-black city and I’m always astonished at the rather high percentage of them that went to HBCUs. I once did a roundtable discussion in front of some leaders at my company with four other black professionals and discovered that 3 out of the 5 of us had attended HBCUs (the other two went to Howard and NCA&T).

Also, in my opinion, the social life is unparalleled. But that’s rarely a convincing argument for a parent :wink:

As for the actual size of the school - well, there are pros and cons to attending a small school (just like there is for a large one), and it is true that it is more difficult to choose your professor for any specific class at a small college. But that’s such a minor detail that I wouldn’t use that as the basis to choose a college, IMO. Like most college students, not every professor I took a class with in college was my favorite, and a few were downright bad. But that’s not any less true at a large college, especially when you get into upper-level classes.

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