<p>But is it really the chinese/asians or the parents from countries other than the United States. My parents (Iranian) have the same ethic as most east asian parents.</p>
<p>you think chinese-american kids are pushed hard...</p>
<p>my girl was born in china and school is basically from sunup to sundown. kids go to CAMPS rather than test prep courses to study for their college entrance exam. There not even allowed to see their families unless for an emergency.</p>
<p>her daily routine math homework is not just pg. 343 1-75 odd...</p>
<p>they use 8x14 paper for assignments. math is around 5 8x14s filled with questions.</p>
<p>it is as easy as this, either the parents or the children have suffered from other ethics' pride and prejudices. their egos are hurt to the extentt that they strive for achievement. and one thing SAT is within their control if they give enough hard work
i was here and back to China throughuot of my education "career" and iit is about every field that i attend i would at least trry my best</p>
<p>I think it all comes down to work ethic, no matter where you're from.</p>
<p>I think parents that push their children that hard are going to pay the price later on. For while many will continue on the right course, a lot of kids will have trouble in college because they are granted so much freedom. I can really see some of my asian friends rebelling in college because of how much stress they are put under in high school. Its also all about priorities. Many Americans understand that just because you go to a state school instead of an ivy, you may very well still make more money than the kid at harvard. </p>
<p>I think first generation immigrants are still under the assumption that they live in China or Japan(if you dont get into school you are nothing), when in reality many Americans who dont have a top of the line education are millionaires, while an ivy graduate with the wrong major could still be out there looking for a job. Its all about bragging rights and bad information. I wouldnt want to make my parents pay 35 grand a year unless I was sure that I could somehow pay them back in the future, which is a tough guarantee in todays economy.</p>
<p>Ryan, thats true. </p>
<p>Many of my friends were pushed hard when younger and now that their in high school they don't feel motivated to do anything unless they are told.. by the way they are asian as well</p>
<p>i definitely think its their work ethic. definitely</p>
<p>lol...everytime i read discussions like these, there r always 2 types of ppl: 1 who look at stereotypes n relate those to real life stories.. and the other is anti-stereotype who look at everyone equally</p>
<p>keep in mind that the immigrants from asia now are the best the area has to offer. To quote my Chinese friend Sophia: "the smart Chinese come to america, the dumb chinese stay in China." </p>
<p>remember that the first asians to come over for railroad labor were contemptously thought of as dumb buffoons. now of course that's mostly xenophobic american sentiment, but most of the immigrants were of the lowest class, and PC or not, there is a pattern between intelligence and socioeconomic status.</p>
<p>nothing in this post is meant to be racist. we're dealing with a sensitive subject here, so i'm trying to be as objective as possible.</p>
<p>"all stereotypes have truth to them"</p>
<p>hehe, we are stereotyping stereotypes.</p>
<p>It is definitely not work ethic. In whatever precious time i have, I cook, watch movies, read, bike, and make young women wet! Uncreative, shy bookworms my left a$$!</p>
<p>I'm Chinese. My dad gave me a joke sometime last year.</p>
<p>"A first-generation parent expect his son to make 100s on everything. You must effectively study a minimum of four hours per night. You must be first violin. You must sleep at 9:00 PM. You must earn a scholarship or fellowship."</p>
<p>"A second-generation parent expects his son to make As on most things, although the occasional B is acceptable. Study? Two hours a night is OK. As long as you're good at the instrument you play, you're fine. You can sleep at 10:30 if you want. Just try your hardest to earn a scholarship."</p>
<p>"A third-generation parent expects his son to pass all his classes. As long as his son is studying, everything's alright. You don't even need to play an instrument. You can stay on AOL as long as you want. College? You mean the community college, right?"</p>
<p>Basically, there's a caveat with the "Asian = Smart" stereotype. It really only applies to second-generation persons. They were expected to perform at high levels by their parents, because their parents had to endure many, many hardships to be able to emigrate. A lot of people would die from the pressures involved that the first-generation immigrants had to bite.</p>
<p>I myself am second-generation and I slip up a lot. I really shouldn't.</p>
<p>LMAO Fabrizio! That's so funny! [cracks up]</p>
<p>anyone else think its a joke when some people say asian parents are dangerously pushing their kids too much. if our parents could make it here on a boat/plane during a war with only $0 to their name and get college degrees to become doctors, lawyers, engineers....than we better be able to handle an hour less of MTV, aim, and sleep just to get into a good college.</p>
<p>well said ^</p>
<p>I know Dru..I feel bad a lot actually.
I feel I'm wasting too much time, and not making use of every minute I have.
Especially after these end of the year tests, I really don't have much homework..and it's just strange.
I don't know..I guess I'm used to feeling overwhelmed. And then I get a B on a report card and I have to listen to the story of how my parents had nothing, and how my dad had 2 shorts to use to alternate with every day, and how he washed his own clothes in the sun..and he used a screw to fix his shoe when it broke..I feel like I'm living too good of a life sometimes.
I mean, he walked so many miles to school until he graduated 1st to get a bike. Not even a car, a bike.</p>
<p>I'm chinese and my parents beg me day and night to stop studying and take breaks. </p>
<p>today, they attempted to force to me go to the annual unity fair.</p>
<p>i didn't go.</p>
<p>Well, then you are going to a good college in their name, or honor, rather than for your own fulfillment. That's what I have a problem with the pushiness of asian parents (and any parents in general). Oftentimes, they push their kids to make themselves feel more worthy, as if getting their kids into a top college qualifies them as great parents. Sure, having your children on a straight path is certainly something to be proud of in this world, but please cut the crap about how high and mighty you are, cause you aren't - I would rather have my parents, where my mom went to FIT for a 4 year degree and doesn't use it in her job and my dad went to college for a week (yes a week) and dropped out and is a trucker (and making good money I might add) who supported me but aren't pushy/noisy than have pushy parents who feel divine at having their kids go to ivy leagues.</p>
<p>An undertone in this thread seems to be about how Americans are angered at all the uber-hard working immigrants (and asians as we stick to this thread) that come to America and work hard and get all the good jobs. You guys worked hard and earned it, but picture yourselves in our shoes. If all the uber hardworking and smart people went to China or Japan and worked immensely hard and got all the top jobs, wouldn't you be ****ed off too. That's why some people have the stereotypes and anger they do. Not that working hard isn't fair, because in america the hardest working (mostly) do the best, but it still angers people.</p>
<p>Sarorah - that's the exact thing I'm talking about, what your parents (your in a general sense for asian parents) don't understand. A single B on your report card isn't really that big a deal. Seriously, I get so damn ****ed off when I hear stories like this. One B on your report card isn't going to prevent you from becoming what you want to be. We have enough stress in our world, with our brothers and sisters dying in Iraq, the Middle East in turmoil, the american economy wavering, than to worry about a goddamn B on a report card - it's rediculous.</p>
<p>It's not even ethic. I mean - The Asians that DO go to the classes generally are the ones that do the worst.</p>
<p>And Parent pushyness isn't always a factor either. We just own, oaky?</p>
<p>"it's not like you guys are any smarter than other ethnic groups"
-Well...we are. The Stats prove that. Maybe not necessarily more intelligent, but Smart in a school sense (which is what we are talking about), yes.</p>
<p>it's a whole culture difference. Most Asian parents just immigrates to America and just want the best for their kids, at least better than they had it back in their homelands.</p>