Chm 1025 or 2045?

<p>Ok I am going to be a freshman this fall and I have a dilemma. I have not taken Chem since 10th grade but I got an A all year. However I don't really remember much of it. So 1025 seems like a good choice. But if I could go in 2045 and not become totally lost and it's a class I can eventually get the hang of I don't want to waste money doing 1025. What do u think will be the best option?</p>

<p>DOn’t do 2045 if you have not done 1025. You are not wasting your money. I took 1025, got an A, thought I would be fine in 2045… I barely got a B in 2045… Unless you are a chemistry GENIUS, take 1025. Unless you want to fail/barely pass 2045. I basically had to give up all my time this past semester… and this was at a CC. My CC prof used to teach at UF.</p>

<p>thanks :slight_smile: I’ve also heard that intro to chem is a horrible class, is it really bad? That’s why I’m unsure because people keep saying how much of a waste of time it was. Well I guess if you already know the material it can be a waste of time.</p>

<p>If you took say AP Chem your junior/senior year I would say skip it… But if it’s been 2+years take it. Is your major chemistry rich?? 2045 isn’t so much about learning new stuff, it’s taking what you learned in 1025 and doing the calculations and getting even more in depth. You should have already established a knowledge… Be better prepared than I was. LOL.</p>

<p>I just took the Chem Readiness exam on ISIS… I’d say it’s a good indicator of whether or not you should be in CHM 2045</p>

<p>I do NOT believe the chemistry readiness test on ISIS is a good indicator of chemistry skills lol. It tests algebra skills and periodic table skills (for example: what is the atomic number of oxygen?). You could literally pick up a chemistry textbook, read the first 2 chapters and get a +90% easy on that test.</p>

<p>Instead, what i consider a good indicator of your chemistry skills can be found by asking yourself a few questions. Do you remember the concept of periodicity/periodic law (the general nature of elements based on the concepts of subatomic attractions and electron behavior)? Do you remember learning about how elements bond (theories such as VSEPR/Hybridization) and the behavior of valence electrons? Have you ever learned about acids/bases/buffers? Are you familiar with reaction kinetics/rate laws and the variety of equilibrium constants (K constants)? Have you ever learned the concept of half reactions (redox)?</p>

<p>If you truly believe you once had a good foundation of these concepts in your honors chemistry, Im assuming you didn’t take AP chem., then i dont think you should struggle relearning knowledge. You are setup to do well in 2045. </p>

<p>If you don’t have a good foundation, you “should” consider taking 1025.
However, there are people who can pick up fast and succeed in any beginners course without a strong foundation. If you truly believe you are that kind of person and don’t mind playing catchup with the people in the course, take 2045.</p>

<p>I agree Alvin! Great response!</p>

<p>My daughter is currently in this intro to chem class…she had honors chem in her soph. year of high school with straight A’s…she is really struggling in this class and she has great study skills…something was either wrong with her high school class or her TA that is currently teaching! I would highly suggest taking 1025 so you can get a taste of chem at UF</p>

<p>Just remember, learning in high school does not equivalate to that of how your education will go at a university, not even if you took ap courses or took a course at community college. What does matter is that you are able to adequately teach yourself the material and understand it first and foremost. The instructor, be he/she a ta or the professor, builds and solidifies that knowledge. That said, I took Chem 1045 and Chem 1046 at a community college and am transferring over to UF this fall. The material isn’t too bad to learn. It’s just being able to apply what you learned into more complex problems. What matters most is practice practice practice and if you are having trouble go to tutors at the teaching center. Getting this down now helps out for later courses such as Organic Chemistry if you’re going to take it. If you honestly don’t recall much though, do this first. Get a chemistry book and look through some of the chapters and see if it jogs your memory. If you’re still lost, take 1025. If you don’t remember but are hard worker take 1046 if you really want to. My guess is that you are already leaning towards 1025, if you need any help don’t be afraid to ask of others. I’ll be up at UF too if you need a pal. We newbies need to keep together.</p>