<p>Name: Jeni Jensen
State/Country: Chicago
Ethnicity and Gender: White, Female
Intended Major: International Affairs
Interests: Mandarin, singing, athletics
AIM/MSN/E-mail: JenJensen05 / <a href="mailto:JenJensen05@yahoo.com">JenJensen05@yahoo.com</a>
Comment: <a href="http://www.xanga.com/JenJensen05%5B/url%5D">www.xanga.com/JenJensen05</a> If any of you are going to the April 14/15 overnight, send me a message and we'll meet up.</p>
<p>Hey everyone, i was too lazy to post on the Decisions thread but i made it in woohoo!</p>
<p>Name: Alex A.
State/Counter: The 'Burbs of Chi
Ethnicity and Gender: Sheltered suburbanite. Aka white guy.
Intended Major: Fyziks
Interests: Gymnastics, swimming, basketball, science, computers, proving teachers wrong, reading translated foreign classics (i only know three languages shut up.)
AIM/E-mail: iamtheboogieman8, <a href="mailto:fastrandstrongr1@sbcglobal.net">fastrandstrongr1@sbcglobal.net</a>
Comment: Geez all u people do here is argue... we're all 18, live a little. u have the rest of ur lives to be buttholes. With that said i can't wait to see everyone on campus! ps, who wants to room at BJ pierce or shoreland?</p>
<p>Jen, I'm going to bring up something you wrote on your blog, I hope you don't mind:</p>
<p>"It's (UofC) got half the name recognition of other top-teir schools but twice the rigor." </p>
<p>No way. U of Chicago is probably right up there with Harvard in China (since you are in China right?) in terms of recognition. Every single one of my relatives that are in China know about Chicago and I bet almost all top university students in China heard of UChicago because Chicago economists are very influencial in the hyper developing China. Very few heard of Duke, GTown, Brown, and a bunch of other top teir schools. Other famous schools include Cornell, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, UCBerkley, and MIT. So I'm going to have to kindly disagree with you that UChicago isn't as famous when, as far as I am concerned, it is famous at the highest level (well, don't ask the friend who is going to a community college, they will have no clue because Chicago doesn't have an amazing sport team. In their world, Penn State University is much "better" than Chicago.)</p>
<p>PS. Polling thousands of major corporations, Business Week ranked UofChicago number one in employee evaluation, which says a lot about career prospects and recognition. I am big on the brand name thing and I believe Chicago has one of the best (i'm econ though).</p>
<p>Name: Calvin K.
State/Country: Korean expat currently in SoCal
Ethnicity and gender: Asian male
Intended major: Political Science, History, maybe Law, Letters, and Society
Interests: running, singing, classical music, politics, watching English soccer...
AIM: Honorsgalore
Email: <a href="mailto:calvinistheman@hotmail.com">calvinistheman@hotmail.com</a>
Comments: Nice to meet you all, and I'm really looking forward to the life of a mind!</p>
<p>correction: I'm really looking forward to "A Life of the Mind"</p>
<p>Name: Bobby Jan (yea, its my full name since most of you will see me anyway)</p>
<p>State/Country: NJ, USA (came from China at the age of 7)</p>
<p>Race/Sex: Chinese male (what is "Asian" anyways? you can be 100's of different things. i boycott that word.)</p>
<p>Major: Economics
Minor (if offered): Chinese literature or computer science</p>
<p>Aim/Email and MSN messenger: j10cpc/<a href="mailto:j10cpc5000@msn.com">j10cpc5000@msn.com</a></p>
<p>Interest: I like watching all sorts of fighting sports such as Judo, Sanda, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, boxing, wrestling, jujitsu and UFC/mixed martial arts competitions. I also trained in muay thai a great deal a few years ago and I'm coming back to it (kickboxing with grappling, elbows, and knees). I was also a avid paintball player until I ran out of money. I like reading the news, magazines, short stories, and non fiction books on economics and finance. Chilling out, playing poker, watching a movie, and talking are always good too.</p>
<p>Chicago plan: Join the Muay Thai team or some other martial arts team. Learn a lot about economics, especially international economics, finance and developmental economics. Research my senior thesis on economic warfare or efficient financing or some other area I will be interested in. Learn how to play bridge and pool. Workout at the gym 4 times a week. Work/study program for 10 hours a week to finance my education. Any other suggestions? </p>
<p>Comments: I won't be posting much anymore since it is pretty much useless now that I'm accepted but I want to meet all you hardworking geniuses out there.</p>
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And "white" is any better? Stop rebelling against labels and get on with your life.</p>
<p>slightly better, yes. If you are an Asian, you could be an Arabic, an Indian, and Pakistani, a Japanese...They are vastly different races. If you are white, you could be Franch, German, English, Russian...and I just don't see the big difference there just like if you are Chinese, Japanese, or korean. Haha, I don't see how my life is stopped because i "rebel" against a label.</p>
<p>Since we will all be in the class of 2009, whats is your name (or do you perfer to remain anonymous)?</p>
<p>What bias.</p>
<p>Edit: If you were ever going to learn my name, you'd probably have learnt it by now.</p>
<p>The bias is on your side buddy. End of convo unless you decide to back your claim up. I believe the sub continent should have its own name, same with the middle east, same with the pacific islands, same with far east.</p>
<p>ps: about the name: sorry, wasn't paying attention.</p>
<p>Do you expect one word to define an entire country? its people? its culture? Semantics-worshippers like you ought to have learnt something from history. W.E.B. Du Bois prefered "colored;" Malcolm X prefered "Afro-American;" today we seem to have settled on "African-American" not without much mocking criticism from black scholars. Spend more time defining your language, less time letting it define you.</p>
<p>This in conjunction with your dismissal of Europeans as less culturally broad than Asians have ended this "convo" on their own.</p>
<p>There are all kinds of asians at my school, and yes, they are different cultures and different people. Chinese/Korean/Japanese is kind of similar, but when you compare with indian, bengali, eastern russian, filipino, its almost as if the cultures and people never came in contact before coming to america.
With that said, the term "white/caucasian" is equally ridiculous. First of all, the Romanians are the only ones who have a claim to coming from the Caucaus mountains, so I dont see why we're all called caucasian. And secondly, the differences of culture, facial features and communication between places like Spain, France, Western Russian, Iceland, and Germany are just as significant as those between asian cultures. </p>
<p>Just because the asians cant tell the differences between white people, and whites cant tell teh differences between asians, doesnt mean that there is something wrong with the other culture. Naturally, asians are going to have more "practice" discerning between asian people.</p>
<p>Brine, I really liked your answer. However, you have to be lying to yourself if you think "Asian" is equally as broad as "Europeans". You can in fact tell the Asians apart. Middle Eastern, an Indian, a Russian, and a Chinese can be easily separated into different group by anybody with eyes. It would be more difficult to do the same for a group with a German, French, English, Romanians, Spanish, Swiss, and Italian. </p>
<p>Of course the word Caucasian is very broad but noting the differences between Europeans is not unlike noting the differences between Chinese. There are over 100 different ethnic groups in China (Mongolian, Han, Tibetan, Manchurian, just the name the majority) and many of them have their own language and culture even if they are dominated by Han culture. Considering the size of China, it isn't so unbelievable that China can be as diverse as Europe. Ignorance to foreign nations doesnt help globalization. After all, it is easier for Europeans to consider themselves unique while grouping the rest of human civilization into Africa or Asia. This type of thinking is just as foolish as an old Chinese thinking that China is the center of the world. The direct translation for the word China is Middle Empire or Middle Nation/Country because everything outside of China was considered barbaric. I made this point to show that this type of fallacious thinking is ubiquitous. Im just challenging conventional wisdom here, please bear with me.</p>
<p>add on:</p>
<p>Continents doesnt define the specific but it does define something. Sine both Asia and Europe are called continents, they should be equal in their breadth. Let me give you more examples. Australia is a continent by itself and so is North America and Europe. Something one note is that they are all dominated by the Caucasian race. But look at the other continents: Asia, Africa, and South America. What do you see? I see mass grouping of very different kinds of people. Im just trying to make a point and maybe Im wrong, but please prove to me that I am wrong. This is Chicago baby.</p>
<p>To end these 5th Annual CC UChicago Semantic Olympics, "Asian" is usually equivocated with "Oriental." I don't know an Arab or Indian on the planet who would describe their race as Asian.</p>
<p>I see the point you've developed, jnumbers. Asian is more inaccurate than white. "Convo" ended.</p>
<p>I'll take it.</p>
<p>You didn't take; you gave. Gave truth, that is.</p>
<p>Perhaps I'll return the favor sometime.</p>
<p>"Asian" is usually equivocated with "Oriental." I don't know an Arab or Indian on the planet who would describe their race as Asian.</p>
<p>Hey, I disagree.. Even though I used to consider only Orientals as Asians(since I'm Korean), I discovered that Indians..etc. categorize themselves as Asians.. In fact, if you visit or plan to join any Asian cultural societies, I guarantee you that you'll find many non-oriental Asians...</p>
<p>Hmmmmm, it might be a good idea to drop by the "Oriental Institute" on campus and check out what cultures are depicted and studied at that famous museum.</p>
<p>CNN Headline: "University of Chicago Students Redefine World"
Wall Street Journal: "Have You Been To All 12 Continents?"</p>
<p>Ha, I'd be sweet. (But I don't really care that much about it.)</p>