<p>I have a question please,</p>
<p>Concerning this Applying ED thing, If you request for financial aid and apply ED, is there a high chance of getting into Princeton WITH fin. aid. Because i'll hate to be put in a situation where am "obliged" to go to a school and i'll not be able to pay for the School fees.....</p>
<p>What you think I should do.... should i just go ahead and apply ED or what?</p>
<p>If you apply ED and also apply for financial aid, and are accepted, you WILL receive as much financial aid as you need to meet expenses.</p>
<p>I believe that Yale give out need-blind financial aid, but Stanford and Harvard do not. Perhaps S&H do not wish to commit to the financial burden. I do not know about Princeton, but it seems like they offer need-blind aid as well.</p>
<p>Princeton is definitely need-blind-they offer some of the best f.aid around. When it comes to the HYP's and other ivies, YOU SHOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT MONEY! they have tons of it, and are usually pretty generous about giving it away. It doesn't matter whether you apply ED or RD. ED helps if you are really sure that princeton is where you want to go. I got deferred from ED but got in the second time around...and they still gave me a lot of money. The older and richer a school is, the easier it will be for you to pay for it. It's a simple concept that I'm surprised you guys don't get...</p>
<p>thanks glinda for the great advice about on-campus auditioning. i was wondering how exactly to do that and what to instrumental music groups allow prospective students to audition.</p>
<p>yea ok. so then people that can pay are basically squeezed in the middle?</p>
<p>that's why finaid and most scholarships don't make sense... they're not based on merit. like, if you are middle class then you are forced to take out a second mortgage or something and it's really dumb.</p>
<p>I agree with u amnesia.</p>
<p>I wonder if they miss out on very good students who just dont want to shell out 40+K/yr.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that Princeton at least will give you Financial Aid even if you are middle class, because even if your family makes 100,000 a year, they don't expect them to give 40% of that to tuition. You can even go to the aid estimator, which will tell you how much (on average) you can expect to receive. Here's the link:
<a href="https://sweb.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/FinAid/finaid_form.pl%5B/url%5D">https://sweb.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/FinAid/finaid_form.pl</a></p>
<p>If you don't meet the middle class bracket you are forced to sell a condo or some vacation home. That is the problem that upper middle class people face.</p>
<p>OK, so basically, since people like Gates and Buffett want to start a scholarship for Africa... A really rich person will be hailed as a hero for having a middle class to upper middle class scholarship. I know that the silent majority will agree with me... it's just politically incorrect to want this.</p>
<p>What is happening to the Ivy League, which has happened since the late 70s, is you have a few groups:</p>
<p>The poor
A few upper middle class / middle class people who take second mortgages / sell vacation homes. (the smallest, I'd wager)
The rich</p>
<p>But, before we had just the rich basically and attending and upper middle class people attending... although, it seems like the middle group continues to be squeezed.</p>
<p>However, if you get in, i think taking out $40K worth in loans is worth it since a princeotn degree is pricelss and you can get a $200+K job right out of school</p>
<p>yeah but $40K x 4 years is a LOT of debt</p>
<p>200k a year?! I'm not sure about that (i.e. do you have any data on that?). Average salary for an engineer straight out of college is 50k/year. With a PhD you can bump that up to 90-100k/year. A doctor might earn 200k/year, but only after med school, a residency, and often a fellowship. I realized a Princeton degree is good, but is it really that good?</p>
<p>I'm sorry, everyone seems to have missed my post, let me try this again: IF YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS, PRINCETON STILL GIVES FINANCIAL AID, and a pretty good amount at that. You don't have to take out a second mortgage...you can even try with the estimator to see how much someone in the middle class would get by plugging in numbers. Even if your family makes 100,000 a year, they don't expect them to give 40% of that to tuition. Here's the link to the aid estimator:
<a href="https://sweb.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/.../finaid_form.pl%5B/url%5D">https://sweb.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/.../finaid_form.pl</a></p>
<p>i think we should focus more on other aspects than finaid which has hundreds of its own posts</p>
<p>sonicdust: The way I went about it was to contact the head of the music department, who put me in contact with the professor who conducted the vocal auditions. Once the full application is online, you can download the Optional Arts Supplement Form which will give you more detailed instructions. Best of luck to you!</p>