<p>@ Uroogla, is waiting until sophomore-junior year to take Orgo bad, considering the MCATs most likely test over it?</p>
<p>I was under the impression that essentially all premeds took the MCAT after junior year (it’s at least a viable option that many choose), so I wouldn’t worry about that. That your freshman year workload will be easier than later years, however, is one consideration you should make. It’s not a cut-and-dry decision, but you shouldn’t feel obliged to take the course freshman year because it’s what everyone else does - a good number of premeds and non-premed bio majors take it sophomore year.</p>
<p>Does anybody know much about biology concentration? According to <a href=“http://biology.brown.edu/bug/download/BIOL%2011-12%20Summary.pdf[/url]”>http://biology.brown.edu/bug/download/BIOL%2011-12%20Summary.pdf</a> the independent research (1950/1960) both seem to get lab credits…so since the requirement for the concentration is 3 lab classes, I would only need to one extra lab class other than the independent research?</p>
<p>Also, I’d like my schedule to be: Chem 33, Hisp 74 or 73, Bio FYS, and Hist1760. I need to take a 1000+ class in U.S. and European history for AP credits, but I frankly am not so good at history, so if anybody has recommendations on easier U.S. and European courses over 1000, I would be grateful. I can’t tell anything from the critical review…</p>
<p>BIOL 195 and 196 count for only one lab credit. You need two more lab classes on top of that.</p>
<p>Oh thanks!</p>
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Unless you plan to graduate early or be a history concentrator, it’s probably not worth your time. Even grad schools tend not to care about AP credits, it seems.</p>
<p>@Zulatooka</p>
<p>That’s so strange, because what I had planned for freshman year is almost exactly the same.</p>
<p>Fall: Math 0100, Chem 0330, Neur 0010, FYS
Spring: Chem 0350, TAPS, Biol 0200, Neur 1020</p>
<p>Does anyone know how difficult Neur 1020 is?</p>
<p>I’ve heard it’s quite manageable if you do pretty well in Neuro 1. Having said that, it’s not a blowoff class by any means.</p>
<p>Oh hahhah I actually do hope to graduate early. It’s probably impossible but I’d at least try to graduate a semester or two early so I can have some time before med school…</p>
<p>One thing to consider is that, even with sufficient AP credits, it’s difficult to graduate early. You are required to pay tuition for the semesters you skip, and permission is not granted automatically. In addition, you still need to take and pass an appropriate number of classes (which generally means lots of summer courses or a 5-course workload most terms). This is not easy for many students (to put it into perspective, 5 courses at Brown is the equivalent of 20 credit hours at many colleges. Some won’t even permit you to take that many!</p>
<p>You may consider just taking a year off between undergrad and med school, too. How many AP credits will you receive automatically, and how many would you need to go out of your way to receive credit for?</p>
<p>I’d get Biol0200, CLPS0010, MATH0090 and MATH0100 (they both count separately right?) automatically. And I have to get retroactive credit for Spanish literature (which I’ll take first semester), European History, U.S. History, and Physics (hopefully…if I just take PHYS40, do I get credit for 30?). The biggest worry I have with trying to graduate early is that I’m gonna end up taking like 3 bio classes per semester junior year…and studying abroad (especially in two places like I want) is nearly impossible unless I take those double credit intensive language courses…and I wouldn’t really be able to work on a thesis junior year for honors… Yeah, the problem with not being in college yet is that I’m too naive and ambitious. Don’t worry though, I’ll be super realistic in college - I know it won’t actually happen 
I just have nothing to do this summer so I’m just planning for every situation. Well, maybe I’ll try for a semester early</p>
<p>I don’t know why you would even want to rush to graduate early unless it’s for financial reasons.</p>
<p>I can understand wanting a break between undergrad and any type of grad school to avoid burnout, but you’ll probably find that there are so many courses you want to take that you might not want to graduate early. So give it some time before deciding. 3 AP credits is enough for 1 term, and 6-7 is enough for 2 terms, so don’t push yourself to take a history course that you dislike for the credit. As far as physics, you won’t be able to start in 4 barring exceptional circumstances - you’ll need to take 5 or 7 and then 4, 6, or 16 to get the credit for 3.</p>
<p>Is there a chem 0100 web tutorial in the spring if I’d like to take the placement test for chem 33 without taking chem 100 in the fall?</p>
<p>The chem 10 web tutorial is (as far as I know) only in the summer.</p>
<p>Is this a workable schedule for first semester?</p>
<p>Intended Concentration: Science and Society or Human Bio (I’m planning on going pre-med.)</p>
<p>AP for credit: Chem (I know it doesn’t really count), Bio, BC Calc (hopefully)</p>
<p>Classes:
- CHEM0100 Introductory Chemistry (I was thinking of trying to take CHEM0330, but I self-studied for the AP test in high school - I couldn’t take the class - and so I’m not very confident in my knowledge of the subject. Should I try to take 33 placement test anyway? I don’t want to end up failing it and looking stupid. I am doing the review tutorial online, but I find myself still a little worried.)</p>
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<li><p>MATH0170 Advanced Placement Calculus or MATH0180 Intermediate Calculus (I know Uroogla mentioned earlier that 18 is easier than 17 - can I ask why?)</p></li>
<li><p>BIOL 0190P Development of Scientific Theories: Context and the Individual (FYS!)</p></li>
<li><p>ENGL 0130 Critical Reading and Writing II: The Research Essay (CAP)</p></li>
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<p>Chem 33 is roughly equivalent to a good AP Chem course. Don’t take 10, it’s not worth your time. And the placement test is online, so don’t worry about how you look.</p>
<p>Math 17 is more or less the honors version of Calc II, while 18 is the basic version of Calc III. Depending on the teacher, 17 may involve an immense number of proofs, which can be tough. 18 tends to be less intense. Basically, don’t take 17 if you’re doing it for an easier time, but don’t feel you need to take it to be prepared for higher level courses if you’ve completed BC Calc or the equivalent.</p>
<p>I don’t know much about the others, though. The schedule looks balanced and doesn’t seem unreasonable, but be sure to at least consider some shopping (I’m such a hypocrite) in case it doesn’t turn out to be the schedule you expected.</p>
<p>I agree with Uroogla: don’t take Chem 0100 unless you’ve literally had very, very limited chem experience. I only took one year of chem in my sophomore year of high school, thought I couldn’t get into Chem 330, and regretted taking 100. The teaching is honestly pretty terrible in the course and you could much better prepare yourself for Chem 330 by looking through a workbook quickly.</p>
<p>That being said, if you don’t pass the placement test for Chem 330, then you should take Chem 100 because you really will need the slower pace to learn the basic concepts.</p>
<p>So, here’s my potential schedule</p>
<p>ECON0110: Principles of Economics
MATH0350: Honors Calculus
NEUR0010: The Brain: An Introduction to Neuroscience
HIST0970S: Sport in American History (first year seminar)</p>
<p>I got a spot in HIST0970S in the lottery. The only thing I’m starting to worry about is MATH0350. I’ve taken both AB and BC Calc, and got fives on both exams, and actually thought both courses were easy. I’ve just heard that this course is a “time-suck” and “freshman killer”. I plan on being either a math, econ or neuro concentrator, but probably math. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>@Sparkleflower There is a small chance I will be your TA for your FYS.</p>