<p>^^^ KDStudio (expanded AFA programs) and AMDA are the ones that I was thinking of, and CAP21 actually has an agreement already in place with the New School for transfer credits.</p>
<p>Doesn’t Circle in the Square say they have an affiliation with some colleges and that their certificate may be used towards certain colleges? I don’t know which one(s) since we didn’t research CITS other than a quick glance.</p>
<p>CAP21 is offering its traditional 2-year program, the BFA through Molloy along with conservatory training (like the 2-year at CAP21, but spread out more time-wise), and the possible BA at New School after the 2-year program. They said that both the traditional 2-year conservatory and the Molloy option will have 32 students each. Also, the person my daughter talked to said it’s about a 20-minute commute from Molloy to CAP21. I think it was mentioned earlier, but freshman year, the students will be at Molloy three days and CAP21, two. All other years, there are three days at CAP21.</p>
<p>We’re waiting to hear back about a more detailed curriculum plan, too.</p>
<p>@bisouu - we DID get a good giggle. Folks in our house are having a good laugh about relating about possible past encounters with Pan hiding the bushes, or finding a basket in the river, or a nighttime “visitation”. . .</p>
<p>Bisouu, I went through something similar when my D applied to undergrad but luckily, my best friend is a minister so she wrote letters for the schools and scholarship committees. Nevertheless, there were two schools who refused to deal with us because her “father was still living”. He didn’t pay for her high school, her lessons or anything else and never spoke a word to the girl after she turned 14.
While I understand that there are those who try to cheat the system, some of us legitimately have exs who are rotten, nasty, vindictive people and the system should not be “one size fits all”.</p>
<p>Bissou, not meaning to make this a serious discussion–I realize you were chuckling about it! Mezzo’sMama, definitely. My ex is similar to yours. Unfortunately, the colleges can’t easily distinguish between a negligent absent parent who refuses to support his/her child for years versus a parent who just doesn’t want to pay for college. If the colleges allowed parents to say, “Um, I’m not going to help with college so you have to give my kid a scholarship,” they would be inundated. So documentation is really important. Some colleges treat this as one size fits all, but many don’t. For the schools that won’t deal with you, well, in my point of view, that tells you something about them. Over the years, my kids have had the full range of financial offers, basically from nothing to everything. The colleges that gave the aid are the colleges they attend. But we were fortunate to have choices. Basically, paying for college and trying to get the financial aid is very stressful!</p>
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<p>Maybe if they’re flying them in by helicopter! </p>
<p>How long do you think the commute would be, alwaysamom?</p>
<p>I’m so sorry; I misspoke about the 20 minute commute. After checking my D’s notes, the person had said Molloy is “less than an hour” away from NYC; Molloy’s website says the same. When I asked someone from the area, she said it would probably take 25-30 minutes. I guess it’s time for another email to Molloy/CAP21 to find out for sure!</p>
<p>myloves, without knowing the location of where the student would be living, how they get to the station, and how long that part of the trip takes, it is difficult to estimate. I’m guessing that they’d use the LIRR train, so that trip alone would likely be somewhere in the vicinity of 40 minutes. Depending on the time of day, some trips also require a transfer. I believe that the LIRR has a trip planner on their website so you can see the schedules and times available from station to station. From Penn Station, it’s about 14 short blocks and 1 1/2 long blocks to Cap21 so if they walk that, probably another 15-20 minutes, depending how fast they walk. I’m not sure which subway might be the one for that trip but it might shorten it by a bit. The other thing you might want to consider is the cost factor for this transportation. If I recall correctly, the LIRR and the MTA require separate passes, so you’d be paying for both (unless the school is providing this). Confirm this because my memory of when my D was in NY at school may be faulty. The LIRR pass is probably somewhere around $250 a month, and the MTA has different plans but is likely ~$100 monthly. Now, if they were in the city, they’d have the MTA pass anyway so that wouldn’t be an added expense. </p>
<p>It may be doable, and certainly there are kids who commute to school. My point in posting about this is that people often underestimate commute times when it works to their benefit. </p>
<p>I live on Long Island, about one town over from Molloy, the Rockville Centre train station is commonly used by people residing in the towns around the area and there’s a lot over there, lots of restaurants, very crowded on Friday and Saturday nights, the commute would be 40 minutes to an hour depending on the train schedule and there are sometimes some problems with the LIRR. Molloy is more of a commuter school think Hofstra or Adelphi, other Long Island schools, but I think Molloy is more so than these two, admissions stats academically are similar as well. </p>
<p>Regarding Molloy/CAP21 and commuting…I don’t think you would buy a monthly pass for LIRR if you are only commuting 2x/week. The round-trip fare to NYC at peak times is $25, less if off-peak. The monthly subway pass is $112. I think the program is likely best for a mature, independent student who is comfortable in NYC and wants to find a way to do an intensive conservatory, yet get a college degree. You are not going to get a full college experience. But I would imagine that most students would end up getting an apartment in NYC, at least after Freshman year. It could be a great option for some, but not all. Someone should start a separate thread and move this discussion there. Is there a moderator who can do that for us?</p>
<p>Thought i would update you…my D finally got an acceptance! She got into Rider’s BFA MT program. She was finally happy for 2 days. We went to Indiana and she fell in love with it, and thought she had a great audition. Well, acceptance calls went out Sunday afternoon --we didnt get one. She is back to devastated. We are praying for a wait list spot. So the tally so far: 7 rejections. 1 deferral. 1 acceptance (thank G-d). </p>
<p>bwaybabie!!! When I read your earlier post about your daughter (and your) devastation - I was so sad and praying for you guys and for everyone. I felt like I could relate as this whole year has been such a shock to emotions - I often tell people at work I’m like a zombie - walking around 24/7 with a computer in hand. This is all so hard as they are so talented. But for God’s sake - some of these schools have auditioned over 1000 students for MT - to hit a spot for 12 or 20 freshman class seems near to impossible.
So to your daughter’s recent acceptance to Rider for BFA MT. I say - Whoop, Whoop, Whoop! Remind her of the adage… “You only need ONE!!!” Congrats so much on this - what a relief!!!</p>
<p>Rider is a great program!! I heard Mary Anne Denard speak last summer and she said of the programs that are “fit” schools that would soon be “reach” schools, Rider was the one to first come to her mind. She said it is very up and coming. Congrats to your D!! She is going to college for MT!!</p>
<p>bwaybabie - she should be proud of herself Rider is a great program! I’ve been in touch with parents of current students and they all rave about it. One of the current students had the choice of CCM and CMU but chose Rider, he’s never regretted it for a minute. The location and connections of the faculty have provided him opportunities he would’ve never had if he didn’t chose Rider. </p>
<p>Congratulations @bwaybabie!!! 
I’ve been pulling for you!!</p>
<p>Plus Rider is in one of the nicest counties in NJ. My son and I are headed there for accepted students day next weekend. He is a transfer student admitted to the biz school for advertising. </p>
<p>Congrats bwaybabie! I know my D is thrilled for your D (as they are buddies), Rider is a fantastic MT program! </p>
<p>My D’s Rider portal is still under review as of this morning (despite being told last week by the director that she might want to check her portal…). D is hoping to join the “red line group” any day but the frustrating wait continues…</p>
<p><em>crickets</em></p>
<p>@cellomom51, did your daughter double (triple? quadruple) check with admissions that they have everything that they need? That’s the only reason that comes to mind for the delay.</p>
<p>yup, she has been complete for a while according to the portal and the MT director told her via email that decisions were made last Tuesday and that she “might want to check her MyRider portal”, total silence from Rider and every other school she is waiting to hear from. I might call to make sure but I don’t want to be a pain and D is to busy with school, work and dress rehearsals for her HS musical.
Thanks for the suggestion though, hope your D hears more good news soon!</p>