<p>This might be a really silly suggestion, but have you tried clearing your cache on your computer and trying again? Sometimes browsers will load an old page. It’s the only thing I can think of – so sorry you guys are stuck wondering indefinitely. :(</p>
<p>Random question…I asked this in the Ohio Northern forum, but no one replied… am curious to learn where ONU falls on the unofficial list of top schools for BFA MT. Is it more similar in strength and reputation of program to Rider, Webster, Otterbein, or Pace?</p>
<p>I don’t think it has the same reputation as pace</p>
<p>I thought Otterbein was a very highly regarded school! Way up there. Am I wrong?</p>
<p>If those schools were ranked on a general reputation of program, where does Ohio Northern fall? (And no, I’m not trying to start a debate about “well, it depends if you are counting how many Broadway performers school X had in 1988 vs school y, which has fabulous professors who taught students on national tours in 2001.”)…Just looking for a general reputation comparison. :)</p>
<p>To tell you the truth, I’ve never heard of Ohio Northern. I have heard good things about Otterbein, Webster, and Pace, and mixed things about Rider. </p>
<p>Ohio Northern is not anywhere close to the top of the list and I can’t imagine anyone challenging that realistically. But, it also doesn’t mean it’s not a fine program for the right kid.</p>
<p>I think of Ohio Northern more in regional terms. I am sure it is a decent BFA program and attended more by kids in that general area. I do not think kids travel across the country to apply or attend there such as they do with Pace or Otterbein. We are from New England and I first became aware of Ohio Northern from CC and nothing else. Even though Otterbein is Midwest , it has a fabulous reputation and is considered highly competitive and kids are applying there from the east and west coasts and everywhere in-between. </p>
<p>Where do you all feel Millikin ranks in all this? I would love the imput.</p>
<p>Those schools are all so different I’m not sure anyone could answer your question. From what I know, Of those you mentioned, Otterbein is the most selective because they take only a few students of each gender each year (4 of each I think). If you use number accepted as a means to rank them, I think, but am not sure, that Pace would be next most selective ,followed by Webster and Rider. I believe ONU accepts a similar number as or possibly more than all of these schools. ONU goes around the country hosting auditions including Unifieds so I think they do have people from all over that audition for them. Webster’s program has been around a pretty long time. Rider has been crowned one of the new up and coming programs. I’m not sure ONU has the cache or reputation some of these schools have but I think it is a nice program that offers training in acting, dance and voice. They also seem to offer pretty good scholarship packages which makes it financially attractive to some.</p>
<p>Yikes! At the risk of slings and arrows, I’ll bite - to help you out since Ohio Northern is a much younger, up and coming program, and I don’t think you’ll see as much info out there on them. It is just that - from what I hear, an enthusiastic, growing program not necessarily with the strength of reputation of Otterbein. Some folks I know would level Webster similar to Otterbein, some would not. Some would now put Rider similar to Otterbein, some would not. I will say that Rider’s escalation has been extraordinary and I do believe it will quickly be leveled with Otterbein by most folks. Pace, a much larger school than Otterbein, is a unique program. Many define it by it’s location, tons of adjunct faculty and broad scope of training, especially in dance. What I can tell you is that know of students accepted to University of Michigan, Syracuse, Baldwin Wallace, Ithaca, Pace, Elon, Montclair, Webster, Boston Conservatory, Point Park, Wright State, Ball State, Indiana, etc who chose Otterbein. For our family’s purposes, Otterbein is most comparable to Elon and Baldwin Wallace. It seems that our kids and their friends struggled most over final decisions among those three, even when a school like Michigan was in the mix. And, yes, Otterbein, Elon, and Baldwin Wallace attract and have students in their programs from the Pacific Northwest, Southwest, New England, MidAtlantic, etc. I know there are differing opinions on this point, but I hope this helps.</p>
<p>there are a few schools that might be head and shoulders above the rest. after that most of the the schools are about the same. </p>
<p>Otterbein was my son’s first choice from his first visit; as things turned out, he chose it over Ithaca, not because of perceived quality (Ithaca is first-class and he was thrilled to get in) but because of fit–the people, the department’s philosophy, the scale of the overall school, and even the location. He has been incredibly happy with that decision. Can’t say it enough: fit matters!! </p>
<p>fit is the most important factor. what good is being at cmu or ccm if your not happy</p>
<p>I agree fit matters, but reputation of program is also important to some. I was just trying to gauge where this school “fits in,” if you will. Prior to this year, I knew of NYU and CMU for MT and that was about it. I love all of the input on this subject. Thanks everyone.</p>
<p>We are also struggling with the reputation thing. My S messed up on his prescreens for U of M (His number one choice) and did not get invited to audition. He has an acceptance to CCM, but is terribly upset to hear all the other kids with acceptances there saying they would take a place at U of M if they are offered it. He feels that CCM is pretty similar to U of M, and if anything, a better fit for him. He is very discouraged that the current CCM class is so willing to drop CCM for U of M. But perhaps it is just sour grapes.</p>
<p>Congrats at the CCM acceptance!!! CCM has always been considered up there with UM and CMU. They have a great reputation. Especially if he sees it as a better fit. I am suprised that the other class would be so willing to drop it for UM. </p>
<p>Exactly my thinking @broadway95. I am wondering what they know that I don’t! I am also slightly amused that CC seems to have had so few CCM acceptances recently…</p>
<p>I wonder @katestyles, if there are many girls on that CCM accepted FB page? It seems that more boys have gotten their CCM results than girls. Still waiting here:)</p>
<p>Honestly, only a small portion of auditioning students/families participate on CC. Some may lurk and be afraid to post. Just know that this is not an accurate representation of the total pool of auditioning students, so don’t worry about how many people are reflected on the acceptance posts. Your son should be very proud of his CCM acceptance. :)</p>