Class of 2020 RD Dicussion

People should stop asking about stats as honestly, once they are over some threshold (unless they don’t have strong EC’s or know they wrote lackluster essays…in which case, Emory may still not them even with high stats), Emory is going to take the applicant serious (I’m going to guess 3.5 and like 1150-1200) and start to look at other parts of the profile (like how much did they challenge themselves. If stats were the only (or even primary) after the student proves themselves academically far above average, they are likely resorting to a superficial evaluation process (which is kind of a waste of time unless you need really high scoring students to handle some new curriculum being implemented school-wide and furthermore, unless all teachers are to write multiple choice exams, which would be sad at an elite private) which obviously isn’t the case. Emory’s admissions scheme has always been more holistic (perhaps because it had to be before the new admissions Dean came, but now he is doing it intentionally) and it seems to have always good results in terms of student accomplishments. Emory has always been lower in stats than near peers (makes sense because it is a late comer as a serious contender/research university) but competes well with them in this category. Given that I would worry about the quality of essays and EC’s unless the stats are far below the bottom quartile or those typically accepted from your HS (and even then you can’t predict).

@darkhound173 and @zfarrias ok! Just wondering! Thanks for responding :slight_smile: @bernie12 I completely agree! many kids at my school applied for top notch schools, some going as far as like 20 in one go. Quite honestly, I thought that was a little drastic since each school is different and fits differently with people so to apply to literally all i thought was ambitious. Many thought scores and what not were going to get them in (weeks before deadlines many would be taking an SAT or ACT over just because they were “only” 2300 but not quite up there). When decisions came around, literally all of them were rejected (for most of them and their schools), and very few waitlisted or deferred. But when you looked closer, they lacked the more “humanistic” aspects I think more universities value today. Things like volunteering etc. were absent. Some tried to justify community service as something completely unrelated to community service at all. This is where I think the essays make such a huge impact. It’s the only thing that can truly tell a university whether or not a prospective applicant is right for them and in turn whether or not the university is right for the applicant. As someone who honestly did not expect to get in to their number one OOS school and another equally competitive one, I honestly feel to the deepest extent that my essays were the one of the few things which got across the message.

@BlackHuntress : If I primarily had high stats, there are schools to apply to that have easier applications (we know who these are, they are in the top 20) because they are indeed looking to mostly pump up application volume and get the highest scores. However, more successful schools (as in beyond their incoming stats and instead looking at “output”) in their brackets know far better and put students through more challenging supplements or essays to see how the student thinks. We know most students at top 30 or so can circle most of the right answers on MC tests, but can what values do they have and how will they contribute to community life at the school? How deeply do they think? How engaged were they with their academics? Just for a grade or were they a geek/nerd that turned their academic interests into an EC hobby by maybe participating in competitions, forums, or other event? Schools that do really well or overperform on “output” try their best to find and enroll the students who were exceptional in those areas even if they weren’t perfect academically (they need to be great, but not perfect. The academic achievement is not limited to numbers).

Also academic perfection in HS can lead to over-confidence and complacency in college (I feel like most elites know this too) because if you effortlessly scored high or made great grades, I’m sure teachers will have a hard time challenging you because you aren’t used to it as you’ve been conditioned to think things should come easy. I’m actually glad that Emory has not responded to that sort of thing as much as it seems some places have (more difficult instructors at Emory often end up quite popular and well respected. It isn’t a giant ego fest for a decent chunk who chose to take them…they understood that there are likely people who will do better but that it is okay as long as they learn at a much higher level than otherwise. Emory has to continue to recruit people that say things like: “My organic chemistry test was very hard, but I found navigating it fun” and there are plenty who say that). It’s not a spirit that Emory can keep up by just recruiting essentially anybody with good academic credentials. A set of educational and even ethical values must come in with the student to facilitate that which why I like the way Dean Latting does things. It makes students with great values and attitudes towards learning less “random”. They didn’t get here by accident and thus become less anomalous over time.

Hi guys! I had applied to only emory in december but about a month later I recieved an email asking me if I wanted to apply to Oxford college. Unlike the common application in which There was an essay component for oxford, all I had to do was check the box stating my cofirmation for choosing oxford and submitting. Did anyone else recieve such an email? Thanks!

@Sehaj14 I did

@Sehaj14 yes i did! :slight_smile:

@BlackHuntress @gq2016
Are we at any disadvantage compared to those who wrote the essay? Also did u opt in?

Ok so I just logged into my OPUS account and clicked on the “Event Registration” tab under the “Admission” tab. When I clicked on it, it went to a page that lists all its schools (Undergraduate: Emory college, oxford college, etc. Graduate: Business school, school of nursing, etc. ) and then quickly goes back to the login page. It shows the page for like 1 second and then switches like I wasn’t suppose to it. So, I don’t know if this is a glitch or if it means something. :-/

@Sehaj14 Yeah I opted in. I’d assume so, but I don’t think that’s as important as our grades and test scores

@gq2016 : It certainly would be a close second to stats because Oxford actually wants to begin admitting more students ACTUALLY interested in Oxford and not just those willing to go to Oxford if admissions or merit-aid doesn’t work out on main campus. They are interested in boosting their retention rate and also diminsihing how many people leave before 2 years. The first step is to basically use essays to at least attempt to gauge if some folks may be genuinely interested and recognize the difference between it and main (other than admissions, which no longer is different at any significant level).

@collegehopeful4321 When I click on Event Registration, I can see two schools: Emory and Oxford. But it doesn’t quickly go back to the login page like what you’re describing.

When I click on either school, I get the following message:

“There are currently no events available for registration. Please visit the appropriate schools website to view upcoming events. Thanks for your interest in visiting Emory University!”

@cchopeful2016 sry I meant to say that after I click “Event Registration” it goes to the page that says "There are currently no events…). But before it goes to that message, it goes to the page that shows all the schools as I stated before. I don’t know if it means anything because it didn’t happen before

@bernie12 Well in that case I probably didn’t get in lol.
Is it any common for applicants to be denied from Oxford and accepted from Emory?

@collegehopeful4321 What schools do you have under event registration?

The only two I have are:
“Undergraduate Emory College”
“Undergraduate Oxford”

@cchopeful2016 That’s what I have too

@cchopeful2016 Well I didn’t apply to both school so I don’t really have to options for the event registration; its just Emory.

I’m just not sure why that page that lists its undergraduate schools, graduate schools, communities, libraries, etc. pops up before it gets to the “There are currently no events—” message

Once I hit “select” next to “undergraduate emory college” it goes right to the “There are currently no events” message

@gq2016 yep, same here.

@Sehaj14 I guess technically we were at a disadvantage since we weren’t able to write a third essay…but in all honesty I think we aren’t as long as the other essays you had were spot on and coincide with characteristics with oxford (kind of similar to emory just more liberal artsy focused). And this is coming from someone accepted to both. In the end, it all comes down to seeing the person underneath which is why I will always stress the importance of essays! Good luck and hope you get in on Wednesday! :slight_smile: Also, which one are you interested in?