Stonestreet is one of the studios at Tisch, but it is what they call an “advanced studio,” meaning you can study in it only during junior or senior years.
As far as “success stories,” when I was writing about my D’s peer group from Tisch who have met with a lot of success in a variety of capacities, in my earlier post today, I was not only limiting it to those who were in the CAP21 studio. It so happens, that while some of her pals were in that studio, some were in the other studios and have met with great success in MT. For example, one friend who my D was in a MainStage musical with at Tisch, studied in ETW studio, and has had several MT roles on Broadway recently, including a Tony nomination. Another friend was in Strasberg studio and has had several significant MT roles on Broadway. Another friend was not in the CAP21 studio (I am not sure his acting studio) and recently starred in a Broadway musical. Another close friend was in Playwrights Horizons studio and is currently starring in an Off Broadway musical.
In any case, you cannot fully gauge the success of the MT students coming out of New Studio on Broadway, as there have only been graduates of that studio for a few years. So, yes, CAP21’s program at NYU has more success stories so far than the New Studio has. But let’s also remember that many Tisch students, including my D, who is now a working professional in MT, studied in MORE than one studio during their 4 years at Tisch. As well, many students in the acting studios came in with MT training and get some MT training and private voice in their acting studios too. Some acting studios also put on musicals at Tisch.
As I said before, Tisch continues to produce quality graduates. I just didn’t like how the split was handled. It changed my perception of NYU as a whole. That’s my perception. It’s obvious you have a different opinion but that is the point of a forum like this. People can see varying view points and make their own decision.
I wasn’t commenting on how NYU’s split with CAP21 was handled. My post #4501 was only replying to the part of your post assuming how success stories quoted had come out of the CAP21 studio when it was affiliated with Tisch.
CAP21’s split with Tisch happened soon after my D had already graduated.
Anyone with new information regarding U of Arizona? There are still stories of cuts/redirections. I’d love to hear the most recent news. 
Longtime lurker, first time poster. I just contacted Oklahoma City University yesterday. They said they will be complete with notifications in 2-3 weeks! When I asked about the May 1st deadline to commit, I heard nothing. Crazy.
Crazy that some schools still haven’t notified students yet!!! Makes it pretty difficult to make a decision and/or re-visit before the May 1 deadline! Jeesh
@Macsdreams, can you be specific about what it is about NYU’s handling of the the split with Cap21 that troubles you? Innuendo isn’t helpful but specifics could be. I’ll be honest with you, I’m the parent of a Tisch grad who was at NYU when both Cap21 and New Studio programs were running in parallel and I don’t know what you are talking about. I have the impression that you are currently exploring programs and were not actually at NYU to know much about this firsthand but I could be wrong. Please enlighten me/us with the details.
As an aside about the MT studio at Tisch…I also read on this forum that some (who don’t have kids at NYU) don’t like that Tisch contracts with outside studios for the training. However, SOME of NYU/Tisch’s studios are not outside studios, and are rather run directly by NYU/Tisch with NYU faculty. In fact, one of these studios is the newer MT studio at Tisch, New Studio on Broadway. That should please the naysayers who don’t like the idea of outside studios. My D went to CAP21, an outside studio at Tisch, but also did 3 semesters in ETW studio which is at Tisch, run by Tisch and with Tisch faculty. Both were great experiences. But for those who don’t like the outside studio set up, well, then they should be happy that NSB (the current MT studio) is right at Tisch and run by Tisch faculty. But then again, can’t please everyone.
In any case, for prospective students, it is best to talk with current students and parents who attend a school/program or alumni from the past 10 years. Information from those who don’t attend or have never attended, or had a kid attend, have an element of heresay to them. As well, not all schools are for all people. AND, a situation at a school that happened at least 6 years ago, is likely to have no effect on those who attend now.
@soozievt Thank you so much for your post! Perfectly said!
I’m really wondering about Tisch vs. a smaller program at some of the top schools, like Carnegie, Syracuse, Emerson, Ithaca, etc. I have heard that the smaller programs are more selective, and that the students receive a more nurturing and intimate educational experience. Its all a bit confusing - and with such a large price tag, you really want to have a clear idea of what’s most beneficial. That said, I also believe that different kids will do better at different places, and that there is no “one size fits all” in this arena. Thoughts!?
@JaneDo, re post 4510:
One thing that often seems to be said on this forum is a fear that a larger program equates with less individual attention. I don’t see it that way at all. The larger programs, such as NYU or BOCO as two examples, have classroom sizes of about 15 or so. That means while in a class, that nice size is similar to what you get in a classroom in a smaller program that has a total of 15 students per grade in MT. To me, the important issue is class size in the classroom. I say this as a former teacher myself. Class size when teaching is very important. So, that level of individual attention is going to be there whether the program is larger or smaller, if the classes taken are about 15 or so in a room.
One thing that is different between a smaller or larger MT program, can be how many different teachers you can have over the course of four years. This is a matter of preference, but some may like to learn from a variety of teachers over that amount of time, rather than one or two in each discipline. Sometimes a larger program can offer even more levels of dance so that students can have the right placement. Another difference, but again, a matter solely of preference, is how many kids you are going to hang out with pretty closely for four years. In a program with 12 students, a kid may or may not find a bunch of friends they have lots in common with, and when there are more kids to interact with (and not the same kids in every class over the four years), they can pick and choose their friends a bit more. But not everyone is going to care about that of course. Sometimes a smaller program has fewer productions. Some may say that in a large program, the chances of being cast are slimmer (though my kid went to a large program, NYU, and there are so many productions of all sorts, so there are ways to perform in some capacity). Sometimes in a larger program, you mix with kids with a more diverse set of interests in this field, which I knew my D came upon at Tisch where some were wanting to be in musicals, some in movies, some in comedy, some in choreography, some pursuing directing, some writers, some aiming to produce, and so on. I think that is true at a larger program like Northwestern too. These relationships with those who are not all aiming to perform on Broadway in a musical, so to speak, can pay off in spades later after graduating, and working and collaborating with one another on projects. Not all of my D’s fellow graduates are solely (or maybe not at all) focused on the audition lines. They collaborate in the theater world and each has a different skill set. Not sure if that happens as much in a small MT program. Then again, some kids may wish to only mix with those pursuing performing in Broadway musicals.
Different strokes, and all that.
I’m not focusing so much on the “fairy tale” of Broadway musicals as much as their learning about theater, and how theater works in varied communities throughout the country and even the world. I believe there is so much more depth and interest (not to mention reality) to students having an understanding about the theater world in a very large sense.
Thank you @soozievt for that thoughtful response. There is wisdom in what you say. I would tell anyone pursuing this route to plug into the CC boards earlier than senior year. That age old adage, “If I knew then, what I know now” certainly comes to mind!
Honestly, that about which you speak, was one of the strengths, I believe, in my D’s program (NYU). By the way, all the BFA students in Tisch, have to take 7 Theater Studies courses, in addition to the studio training, as well as the liberal arts classes.
Ithaca is not really a small program like one thinks of CMU, Otterbein, FSU and the like. By the same measure, neither is Syracuse nor Emerson (which starts out larger but gets smaller after the first 2 years). Any program that runs multiple small classes instead of only having enough students so everyone is together for all of their training classes is by definition, not small compared to the handful that really only take enough to field a single class at at time.
Count me as one who WOULD say that about her daughter’s experience with a large program. But as it turns out, I discovered that my casting grumbles were matched by similar stories from friends who had kids in the truly small programs who were not happy with their casting situations either. Were they always cast - yes. Did they ever get leads or featured parts - no always and some not ever. At the end of the day there are only so many of those roles to go around and sometimes they go to the usual suspects every time. So the only real difference by virtue of size is how loud the grumble chorus is.
@JaneDo I think people don’t understand that the way Tisch works with the studio system, it does work the same as a smaller program. Although Tisch accepts a greater number of students than other BFA programs, the students are divided amongst 6 studios and then within those studios they are broken down into smaller groups of 12 to 15 students who stay together and that is the group that they have classes with. So basically they have the same student:teacher ratio of smaller programs. Based on my daughter’s experience and the connections she has with her teachers, I would have to say it is a very nurturing and intimate educational experience. The advantage of the larger program, is that she has more choices as she becomes an advanced student to study different techniques and to learn from different professors and interact with different students – but at no time, are the classes ever large. In addition, besides being selected on talent, students must be accepted to NYU academically, which is highly selective.
Just wanted to add that Tisch placement email came today so they should know what studio they were placed in hopefully now.
@soozievt @jbtcat @toowonderful . Thank you all so much for engaging. Like I said, even when I passed on the “negative comment”, which I have to say was about “Tisch and all the top MT programs”, I knew to take it with a grain of salt. I collect all the feedback and then my daughter makes the decision, lol! It’s the perfect Mom manager situation, I wouldn’t trade it. I am just happy to hear the positive experiences your children have had at NYU Tisch. It’s certainly a top choice from what we know so far. Thanks for sharing!
There are so many different schools and so many different students. What one student wants is completely different than what the next one wants! Large, small, urban, rural, MT only, lots of typical college opportunities… the list goes on and on and on… We live in a midsize city with a relatively small (or tight-knit) theatre community. D’s friends have ended up everywhere! It completely depended on what they wanted as to the schools they chose. And it’s different for each of them. That’s where the initial list comes in, and even then, what they “think” they want in the beginning may change completely by the end. While my D adores her small program & has loved every second of it, a friend a year behind her didn’t like it at all and is at NYU where she is extremely happy! A good friend from high school went to a school my D hated once she auditioned and wouldn’t have attended if they’d offered her a full ride.
Every student is different. Your S or D has to find the place where THEY are happy and feel like they fit.