Source is from CalAnswers.
ENTIRE Engineering Department
20,307 Applied
1,722 Admitted
~= 8.4%
For comparison here are L&S Department stats
59,992 Applied
10,069 Admitted
~= 16.8%
By major:
EECS
8984 Applied
494 Admitted
~= 5.5%
Just for comparison purposes here’s L&S CS
NOTE: This is for people who put down CS in application. It does not necessarily reflect how many people end up declaring CS later on.
3692 Applied
752 Admitted
~= 20.4%
BioE
2420 Applied
280 Admitted
~= 11.6%
MechE
3827 Applied
256 Admitted
~= 6.7%
MsE
361 Applied
87 Admitted
~= 24.0%
Will post more stats on request.
“ENTIRE Engineering Department
20,307 Applied
1,722 Admitted
~= 8.4%”
This can’t be correct. There are 7500 ugrads enrolled in UCB engineering. That for 1722 admitted they would need more than a 100% yield rate to keep the program populated. Perhaps the 1722 is an enrollment figure.
The ASEE numbers say 3000 were offered out of 24k applications, 1500 enrolled. 12% admit rate 50% yield.
http://profiles.asee.org/profiles/7658/screen/19?school_name=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
I got the 7500 number from the UC enrollment site…
https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/infocenter/fall-enrollment-glance
@Greymeer
Sorry, but not sure how you’re getting the 7500 enrollment number? I see a number in the 4000s (Engineer + CS)?
https://engineering.berkeley.edu/about/facts-and-figures
On their website they listed 9.6% as the admit rate, which is consistent with the data gathered from the class of 2021 on CalAnswers (1894 admitted/19805 applied). I have verified that this is admit numbers and NOT enrollment. Note that this doesn’t include transfer students.
The ASEE numbers for 2017 at http://profiles.asee.org/profiles/7658/screen/19?school_name=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley indicate that there were 24,654 applicants to engineering majors, of whom 3075 (12.5%) were admitted, of whom 1,534 (49.9%) enrolled. It is not entirely clear whether these numbers include transfers as well as frosh ( https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/infocenter/transfers-major indicates that 289 transfer students enrolled at UCB in engineering majors in 2017, mainly in EECS, mechanical engineering, and L&S CS).
Note that “engineering majors” in the ASEE listings for UCB include chemical engineering in the College of Chemistry and CS and ORMS in the College of Letters and Science, as well as the College of Engineering majors. However, the L&S CS and ORMS majors presumably are not included in the frosh admission stats, since L&S frosh are admitted undeclared.
http://profiles.asee.org/profiles/7658/screen/20?school_name=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley indicates that there were 5,140 students total in engineering majors that year. https://engineering.berkeley.edu/about/facts-and-figures indicates that 3,452 were in College of Engineering majors (i.e. not including chemical engineering, L&S CS, and ORMS).
Regarding admission statistics, admission rates alone are not all that useful without some indication of the strength of applicants and admits in terms of credentials used in admission. Ideally, admission rates by HS GPA and SAT/ACT score ranges for frosh, and college GPA range for transfers, would be most helpful to potential applicants.
For example, it would be helpful if there were a table for each major like this that can be filled in:
EECS admission rates
GPA/SAT 1400-1440 1450-1490 1500-1540 1550-1600
<3.80
3.80-3.89
3.90-3.99
4.00-4.09
4.10-4.19
4.20-4.29
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I’m very very surprised at the relatively low number of CS applicants and admits for L&S. Probably half of the 40 that got into Berkeley this year from my kid’s HS are supposed L&S CS wannabes, including my own kid. I can’t imagine the yield rate at being more than say 60%.
60K applicants for L&S would definitely include transfers as well. I’d be curious if you list say the top 10 L&S listed majors by number of applicants along with acceptance rates. With 1700 people originally enrolled in CS61A for 2018 Fall semester and with Data Science not a major choice last year on the UC application (I don’t think), I wonder where the people are coming from.
What those numbers also mean for CS is that it doesn’t make that much sense to apply for EECS when the L&S CS admit rate is just about 4x higher. Yes, you would need to know the “quality” of the applicant pool as described by ucbalumnus in post #4 for both EECS and CS applicants to get a 100% fair comparison, but just strictly going by numbers and probability, unless you had a 4.0 unweighted, 10+ APs, 1590+ SAT score, if Berkeley was the top choice for CS, I would take my 50% chance on running the L&S CS 3.3 gauntlet any day of the week instead of chancing on EECS.
@ucbalumnus
I digged around and unfortunately I couldn’t find stats at major granularity. I was able to find the entire CoE stats. I put L&S for comparison.
SAT(CoE)
Math:
Avg: 768
25th: 760
75th: 800
Reading + Writing:
Avg: 728
25th: 700
75th: 770
Overall:
Avg: 1496
25th: 1460
75th: 1560
SAT (L&S)
Math:
Avg: 718
25th: 670
75th: 790
Reading + Writing:
Avg: 697
25th: 669
75th: 750
Overall:
Avg: 1415
25th: 1330
75th: 1530
ACT(CoE)
English:
Avg: 34
25th: 34
75th: 36
Math:
Avg: 34
25th: 33
75th: 36
Reading:
Avg: 33
25th: 32
75th: 35
Science:
Avg: 33
25th: 32
75th: 36
Composite:
Avg: 34
25th: 33
75th: 35
ACT(L&S)
English:
Avg: 32
25th: 30
75th: 35
Math:
Avg: 30
25th: 27
75th: 35
Reading:
Avg: 32
25th: 30
75th: 35
Science:
Avg: 30
25th: 26
75th: 34
Composite:
Avg: 31
25th: 29
75th: 34
GPA (CoE)
Unweighted:
Avg: 3.96
25th: 3.96
75th: 4.0
Weighted:
Avg: 4.55
25th: 4.40
75th: 4.72
GPA (L&S)
Unweighted:
Avg: 3.92
25th: 3.88
75th: 4.0
Weighted:
Avg: 4.44
25th: 4.28
75th: 4.62
Hey @wittystudent good info! Is the above stats for admitted or enrolled? I’m assuming it’s not for applied.
@ProfessorPlum168
Yes, these are for those admitted. There are stats for those enrolled (submitted SIR, although I didn’t find this too useful?) if you’d like those.
@wittystudent it would be good to see some enrolled info - it would be interesting to see what the yield would be specifically for EECS and/or for those who put down CS that are L&S, if that info exists. Otherwise I’m guessing the enrolled stats and admitted stats probably are very close to each other.
Did some more digging and found some more interesting statistics. The CoE OOS admit rate is roughly lower (~=7%) with 6103 applicants and 426 admits. In-state there are 10,557 applicants and 1098 admits (~= 10.4%). For international students there are 198 admits with 3,647 applicants (~=5.4%).
@ProfessorPlum168
I will post the enrolled info later, but here are the yield information you requested for EECS and CS.
EECS: Of the 494 admitted, 267 submitted an SIR.
L&S CS: Of the 752 admitted, 425 submitted an SIR.
Hey @wittystudent thanks for the data once again. Thinking out loud, it would be kinda interesting if one could ever find out the number of people who put something else down for L&S as far as a major, but decided to start on the CS track. I have to think there must be a fairly large number for that, since I don’t think there is any real benefit for listing any particular major in L&S during the application process other than for statistical purposes. That’s a big discrepancy between 1700+ enrollees in the CS61A class and the 692 SIRed EECS+CS.
@ProfessorPlum168
Taking CS61A doesn’t mean they are all EECS or intended CS.
Many people take it merely want to gain some knowledge in CS or try it out.
@StevenToCollege yes I’m aware of that. Although that’s a very tough class to “try out”. If anything, Data 8 should be used as the tryout class. Also, not all new CS/EECS take CS61A in the Fall. It is required for a few other majors, such as Cog Sci. Given all that, I think there’s a very large discrepancy somewhere which to me can possibly be explained by numerous wannabe CS majors who put down something else as their major. At least that’s what I’m thinking.
@wittystudent - These are very helpful information. Thank you! I did attend a Berkeley admission presentation last year (October 2018) and did specifically ask about admission rate by majors. The Berkeley lady said that the overall admission rate is 18% but the admission rate for Engineering and Chemistry is only 8%, which aligns with the information that you posted in your first post.
@Tabitha18
Just wanted to add in a minor correction, but the stats do not include admission to the College of Chemistry.
For the class of 2022, there were 3,445 applicants to the College of Chemistry with 534 accepted (15.5% acceptance rate).
What’s the admit rate for civil engineering?
What’s the admissions rate for CNR guys? Would love to know if CNR is easier than L&S?