Classes for McCombs Student

<p>I’ve just decided to attend ut and will be coming in from Detroit for the late orintation on aug. 22/23 and I had a few questions. </p>

<li><p>I’m in McCombs, so I was hoping someone could give me a rough idea of which courses I might want to take, I am hoping to apply to BHP in spring. </p></li>
<li><p>How hard is it to get into BHP?..what kind of a GPA would I need, and what else might I want to do/what do they consider in your application?</p></li>
<li><p>I’m going to be living in Dobie…how is it? I’ve heard good and bad things about it. </p></li>
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<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>Are you absolutely sure you want to go into the Honors program? The degree by itself without the Honors classes already carries a lot of weight.</p>

<p>Anything to make your resume better than the rest of the pack. Friends in BHP don't necessarily do more work but they definitely get the perks.</p>

<p>hi-power, i am willing to put in the extra effort for the honors classes if thats what your asking; im hoping to go into ibanking so i know it will be very competitive as mccombs is a very competitive and not to mention highly ranked school as it is.</p>

<p>Brand_182, that's irrelevant. With a BBA from UT he's not going to have to look for a career.</p>

<p>Kp, personally, if I were you, I would just do the regular classes and put in extra effort to get a higher GPA. It's competitive getting in, doesn't mean that it's competitive getting a job out of it. You'll have plenty of companies trying to recruit you before you get out of school.</p>

<p>McCombs will get you a job, sure, but IB is hard for anyone. McCombs is top notch but isn't heavily recruited for IB so anything you can do to set yourself apart from the pack will help.</p>

<p>If UT is not heavily recruited for IB, then being in the Honors program is not going to help much. What I mean is the extra effort going into the Honors program is probably going to make a larger benefit afterwards.</p>

<p>Does kp964 want to go into IB? I didn't see any sort of indication that he did in his post history, but I didn't look very thoroughly.</p>

<p>I got into BHP as a sophomore last month (you can only apply for the fall of your second year), had a 4.0, tons of ECs, retook the SATs, etc... I probably went over the top, but you need at very least a 3.8 to be considered (average entering gpa was 3.93). </p>

<p>And Hi-Power, there is a large difference between recruiting from BHP and regular UT. When I went to a DB (an ibank) information session a few months ago, the recruiter said that the only three things they pay attention the most too, in order, when looking at resumes is GPA, if you are in honors programs (bhp, fap, ppa, etc), then WE/EC. Also when I had my interview in June for applying into the program, the alumni also told me when he gets a stack of resumes, the first thing he does is look through them to single out BHP students. </p>

<p>Not to mention the disparity in regular McCombs is huge. You have some of the smartest kids you'll ever see, and unfortunately, you will be wondering how some of the other kids managed to pass high school.</p>

<p>i got in to BHP as a sophmore last month also. GPA-wise, since they dont care about overall gpa and only care about in-class gpa, mine was either a 3.82 or 3.88, i cant remember (they count ur spring semester grades). I think the main thing u need though is a gud resume! i know a couple of ppl with 4.0s that got rejected. However, dont do too many extracirriculars. just do like 2-3 and have SOME officer position in at least 1 of them. It would definately help if u get a part time job...i think thats what made me stand out. Also, dont be too nerdy and show them that u have personality as well in the interview/essay part of ur application. I joined a frat and that showed them that im social, i held leadership during pledging for it, and i showed them community service hours all in that one thing, so u might wanna consider it if thas ur thing. (dont join one just for BHP tho!) anyway, dobie is a pretty gud dorm cuz its social, but i heard the food sucked ass, so if u can dont get the meal plan</p>

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If UT is not heavily recruited for IB, then being in the Honors program is not going to help much

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<p>That is false. You need to know people in the program or have been in it to understand.</p>

<p>"And Hi-Power, there is a large difference between recruiting from BHP and regular UT."</p>

<p>And you've only based this on the word-of-mouth of two people, hah. Like I said, if you are really after IB, then there's better choices than UT, period. </p>

<p>McCombs is prestigious enough that you'll have a good career making good money right out of college and you'll be right on track for bigger and better things. In about five years down the road, companies are going to care more about your work experience than your college degree, anyway.</p>

<p>If you can do the Honors program without having a big dip in your GPA, I say go for it. Otherwise, the regular degree is prestigious enough as it is. Having a good GPA is going to mean a little more than the honors program.</p>

<p>"Not to mention the disparity in regular McCombs is huge."</p>

<p>You're going to find that anywhere, bud. The kids at McCombs that you wonder about are going to graduate with low GPAs anyway and end up working alongside Texas Tech graduates with low GPAs.</p>

<p>Brand, that's a bold thing to say considering that you know absolutely nothing about me. I still stand by what I said. If you really want to work in international business, you are MUCH better off going to another school besides UT which is strong in international business rather than busting your butt in the Honors program, getting a lower GPA than you would without the program, and then running against kids from OOS business schools. Remember that UT is not the only business school in the country nor is it the best.</p>

<p>I know that if you were as familiar with the school and people in it as you claim, you wouldn't be arguing with the rest of us that are. ;) </p>

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getting a lower GPA than you would without the program

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<p>Of the people I know in BHP, all consider the work easier than that of their peers in the regular business school and all are capable of earning a high GPA. </p>

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Remember that UT is not the only business school in the country nor is it the best

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<p>Which is exactly my point. Wharton/Harvard/Yale/etc. get big first dibs on Investment Banking (don't know where international business came into the discussion). It is pertinent that, if you want to get into such a competitive field, you do everything possible to differentiate yourself from the pack. McCombs is a large business school. But I'm tired of arguing about something that most everyone else seems to agree on. The OP will make his own decision in the end.</p>

<p>I think somewhere along the page, IB differentiated into International Business and Investment Banking. </p>

<p>Check the Website to find Undergraduate Degree Plans to see what you would need to take. Econ, Psych (almost impossible though to get)/Soc/Anthro, Calc, Communications skills.</p>

<p>I'm living in Dobie too next year. Its dark and dank and looks so much better from the outside than the inside.</p>

<p>i dont really understand why there is disagreement on this thread. UT b-school is one of the best...there are only a handful of schools that are better. and BHP does not mean there is gonna be a dip in ur gpa. almost everyone agrees that BHP classes are more leniently graded than regular business classes. Also, remember that only somewhat accomplished people get into BHP in the first place, so if they cant handle the work and will get a low grade, they prolly wont make it into the BHP in the first place. And i agree UT b-school has too much competition and something like BHP on a resume WILL make a huge difference especially in IB.</p>

<p>ok so what i gather from this thread so far is that yes it is quite difficult to get into bhp..u need a 3.8+ and and some good ec's...would an internship possibly help?.. because i've worked with citigroup for the past 2 summers.</p>

<p>also, what kind of classes might be recommended for a freshmen in busines???..looking on their website and through a coursebook they sent me i have to say im a bit confused...</p>

<p>and thanks to everyone who has posted so far, it has been very interesting reading the many different points of view taken by everyone.</p>

<p>yeah that internship will definately help. work experience is weighted really heavily in the application process. just have a good gpa (doesnt have to be a 4.0) and 2-3 ec's and ur pretty much set. coursework doesnt matter too much. just follow their recommendation on the website just to be safe. i think they said u should take economics, government...etc.</p>

<p>Heh, I recognize some of the names in this thread and I have to agree with em.</p>

<p>If you're ambitious enough to get a good GPA and pick up some ECs (and an internship in your case), then why not apply to the BHP? The benefits are undisputed.</p>

<p>And to Hi-power, if you knew anything about the BHP you would know that a "dip in your GPA" is the last thing you need to worry about. Just take a quick scan of the grade distributions on Pick-A-Prof and you'll find that any honors class will hand out 50-70%+ A's for the class, and rarely hand out anything less than a B. If you have the grades to get into the BHP, you should have no problem maintaining that level of GPA.</p>

<p>And the answer the OP's questions:
1. I'm in McCombs, so I was hoping someone could give me a rough idea of which courses I might want to take, I am hoping to apply to BHP in spring.</p>

<p>Read the McCombs booklet that you got at orientation, that thing will tell you everything you need to know. Just remember you can only take 1 of the core business classes (I recommend taking Business Statistics). </p>

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<li>How hard is it to get into BHP?..what kind of a GPA would I need, and what else might I want to do/what do they consider in your application?</li>
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<p>4.0, anything less and you are jeopardizing your chances of getting in. Only 3-5 applicants manage to transfer into the BHP without a 4.0. Anything less than a 3.8 a you probably won't be considered (despite what they tell you).</p>

<p>BHP also cites leadership as an important factor, but it really takes a back seat to GPA. I didn't have any real leadership positions, but I attended a Leadership institute (Leadershape, it's pretty fun and offered free to McCombs students, if you don't have plans for Spring Break I highly recommend it). </p>

<p>Outside of those two factors, everything else is just filler. BHP wants to make sure you know how to write an essay and obtain a recommendation from a Professor, but the quality of the essay/recc is really not a factor in your decision. </p>

<p>Just focus on GPA and make sure you have some other activities on your resume, if your leadership is lacking, try something like Leadershape.</p>