Clueless ....needs help!! :P

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<p>I am right now in that 'weird anxiety phase' and need loads of help <em>shamelessly smiles</em></p>

<p>Ok my stats: </p>

<p>SAT 1..1800 (FIRST TRY....with like a week's prep...mostly included me running my finger down the 'Kaplan' book).....Gonna give my second try this December....expected score 2000-2100...thought the Barron's sample paper...says around 2200!</p>

<p>SAT II
Chemistry....800
Math IIC......800
(Do i need more than 2???....am not as good in physics!! :| )</p>

<p>School
9th 10th....awesome percentages 90ish-92ish...ok not that awesome...but my 11th marks puts it in perspective...got like 67ish......(got stuck in the dangerous curve....plus preparing for JEE!!...which now I am regretting every second!))..Have to find the class rank!! <em>sighs</em>
But then...12th percentage expected....is 85 to 90!</p>

<p>Oh and the school gave a gold medal for excellence in academics and for being a scholar for six years consecutively...
Am a member of NSHSS (national(though it is international) society of high school scholars)....this doesn't stack up much though!</p>

<p>EC:
School Swimming team (mostly Butterfly) for two years....plus captain for one!!
Member of Dramatics Club..(9th 10th)
Member of maths Club( 9th 10th 11th 12th)
Member of computer club (11th 12th)
Member of debating club( 11th 12th)
Member of social service club (11th 12th)...though this is the only club I didn't participate much in!! :(
Oh and have an inactive blog</p>

<p>Essays...still working...coming out good!
Recs....all of them are awesome....got a peak on all of them...though have 5 of them but not gonna send all because people say it sound desperate (does it??)!!</p>

<p>Oh and the guidance counselor is s***.....said that I'd have to run for all transcripts and would have to write my own counselor evaluation...she'd just sign!! (..that may not be too bad!!)</p>

<p>Need any more info...you are free to ask..??</p>

<p>Oh yes....dream Undergrad college is Princeton (though I doubt if I have any scope).... but have been in talks with their admn officer for a year now...on and off!!....am happy with the fact that they contacted even though I didn't send them my score...I know this doesn't mean anything....but if you haven't noticed then I love blabbering!!</p>

<p>But ultimate goal is to do my MBA from Harvard!!</p>

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<p>So the help....pretty clueless 'bout most of the things....have no legacy in a US college...
So need a friend to help me out of the trepidation...</p>

<p>Haven't shortlisted on a list....would need help in that..</p>

<p>Would need a person...who could read my essay..and tell me how **** it is??... :)</p>

<p>And plus would need your help in crashing my dreams...and telling which good colleges...(oh with a proper financial aid system)...would be a target....am fixed more or less with my dream list!! </p>

<p>Oh and please if you have a fb account or a gmail account...then could you please PM me .....contacting would be easier!! :)</p>

<p>P.S. Just stumbled upon this thread.....it is awesome!!...</p>

<p>P.P.S. How deep am I in *<strong><em>??...oh an sorry for using so much *</em></strong>!!:P</p>

<p>Oh and I entend to major in EE (or Financial Engineering...if I get into Princeton by some dumb stroke of luck!!)</p>

<p>Plus I also would need a hell lot of financial aid...<em>adds another tick to the checklist.....all the things against your dream!!</em> </p>

<p>Oh and sorry for such a long post....would try my best to be terse now!! <em>yeah right!!</em></p>

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<p>which school are you from, akshat? and good luck for jee, lol. that stuff is bad. dont regret it though, after studying for it, you will at least become a much smarter person than you are right now. it really broadens your mind to think in the most unexpected ways.</p>

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<p>hey arronie
Am from DPS Mathura Road…and I hate it like hell!! :P</p>

<p>Luck for JEE?? Does that work?? :slight_smile:
Yes my mind has broadened but then it takes a lot of your time…and it still leaves you with a growing blackhole in the guts…which sucks away all the good feelings!! :stuck_out_tongue:
Kidding…yes it does increase your mind range…but then the quality of JEE is decreasing…and colleges outside have a better approach towards education…and is easier…so I am gonna give both a shot!! :P</p>

<p>Damn I really have to stop blabbering!!! :D</p>

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<p>And people this is totally unfair!! 60 views and just one reply???..and that too, sorry arronie, not a helpful one!!!</p>

<p>I give you full rights to be critically brutal with me…I don’t give a rats behind!!! :D</p>

<p><em>Akshat is proud that he didn’t use s</em>*<em>!! :P</em></p>

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<p>DO NOT send all those recs, they will not want to read more than the number they ask for–it DOES sound desperate.</p>

<p>Yes, you need to take another Subject Test for Princeton.</p>

<p>Honestly, with a 67 average junior year, you will not be accepted. Period. Even if you were a URM (are you?) recruited athlete with amazing ECs, you would not be accepted. In case you don’t know, URM=underrepresented minority.</p>

<p>I don’t think that writing your counselor’s rec is actually legal…I would contact your schools about this.</p>

<p>NSHSS is meaningless, sorry.</p>

<p>Some other schools to look at…I would suggest you look at in-state schools, maybe even community college. I know that isn’t what you want to do, but a 67 is simply atrocious. You can transfer up to a decent school, and then try to get into a good MBA program (maybe even Harvard’s if you can do excellently in college and have really great ECs). Community college really is not a bad place to start, you just have to work very hard and find a good school that welcomes transfers.</p>

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<p>Yes, I won’t be sending so many recs.</p>

<p>Oh I’ll try to take one in Physics then.</p>

<p>Yes I am a URM ( I am not a ■■■■■ :stuck_out_tongue: ), and 67% is not atrocious! My Decile rank is 2/10. The whole of 11th class performed ‘atrociously’ if we go by your standards. And are you an Indian? Most Indians know about the exponential decrease in the 11th grade percentage.</p>

<p>Oh and the counselor’s rec thing was just an exaggeration, she meant that I’d have to contact my own teachers, and take in writing what they think about me, she’d read that and then write her rec. While other counselor do the dirty work, I have to my own as I am a transfer student in this school and am relatively new so she does not know me personally.
Plus I have to attend 1 hour of daily session with her so that she can formulate her ideas about me! So don’t go prancing about something that you are not totally informed of.</p>

<p>But you may as well contact my school, if you want to, but I guess the counselor would lose her job, for not doing her work which is very common for our school staff. You might as well just write about the whole class 12th teacher faculty. :P</p>

<p>I always knew NSHSS was meaningless!</p>

<p>Community school is not what I am looking for. I know how tough it is to transfer and everything and I am not ready to take the risk. </p>

<p>Thanks for reading my profile.</p>

<p>The one thing that I take from your reply is I am not to send extra recs.</p>

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<p>Okay…

  1. I would be sorry for missing the fact that this was posted under the international forum if you had not been so rude in your reply.
  2. You are not a URM if you are Indian, you are an ORM, which means that your chances of admission are exceedingly low. Ranking in the second decile really does not help too much, it would significantly hurt your chances even if you were a US citizen.
  3. I would suggest you look at some lower-tier private schools, but I really doubt you will find much success getting a large amount of financial aid as an international. Try looking for places without much diversity, or at Canadian schools, which I think are better for internationals.</p>

<p>I really don’t know what kind of replies you expected. If you want people to simply pat your back and tell you to shoot for the stars, you’ve come to the wrong place. Don’t be so harsh on the people leaving you comments if you want anyone else to reply.</p>

<p>I would normally say good luck here, but you would probably take that as sarcasm, so I won’t bother.</p>

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<p>Sirensong, </p>

<p>I really did not mean to be rude. The fact that you missed that this post is in the International Forum explains a lot.</p>

<p>Man you are making me feel like an a**hole! I shouldn’t have been so rude! Indians are ORM?? Then I am a ■■■■■!! :stuck_out_tongue: Sorry for running out on you!! </p>

<p>And I don’t think I’d be trying for Canada, I have already got into two low-tier US colleges, and got in with financial aid, but I don’t intend to go there. I’ll still be shooting for the stars, maybe I 'll catch a small one! I am a dreamer, be as critical as you want but don’t tell me not to dream, cause I won’t stop doing that!</p>

<p>Sorry for being harsh…really didn’t mean to but in my defense I did mention that I am a clueless a**hole in the title of the thread.</p>

<p><em>Akshat pities himself for trying so pathetically to make Sirensong smile and forgive him</em></p>

<p>Best of Luck for you!</p>

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<p>u could try in hkust as well in hongkong…if you are willing to stay in asia…
I dont think you would need financial help here…</p>

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<p>And we always wondered why cc put in so much censorship while we were on TiT…</p>

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<p>Sorry, but I seriously doubt your chances at Princeton or Harvard. Yes, in India, class 11 is a major turn off as far as marks are concerned but a 67 is extremely low even by Indian standards (I got like 80 and I’m ****ting bricks) and your SAT I is very shaky. Plus, in your ECs you’re just a member of a whole bunch of clubs. What colleges look for are positions of leadership, and you only seem to have swimming team captaincy. Your record is good, but I don’t think you’re gonna make it to Ivy. Nothing can stop you from applying to these places, but I seriously think you should not get your hopes up at all. A good college I’d like to recommend is the College of Wooster. They admitted 81% of applicants last year and have pretty solid financial aid for internationals. Illinois Institute of Technology is not bad in this respect either.</p>

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<p>Hey Akshat</p>

<p>I think there is still a chance that you might get into a good Ivy, as the Ivies reject hundreds of 4.0 GPAs and 2400 SAT scores every year, and accept less stellar students [academically], who have shown a deep passion for something they do.</p>

<p>You’re applying for engineering right? Have you ever done anything spectacular in that field…like building your own alarm device, or winning a competition, etc. If not, maybe you could contemplate doing that now…</p>

<p>You have to demonstrate a passion for what you’re applying for, and you might just work a way out to get into those dream schools.</p>

<p>But your stats, although impressive to a simpleton like me, aren’t that great. If you’re banking on them alone to get you into Princeton, I think you should concentrate on JEE. There are great engineering schools in India!!!</p>

<p>Hope this helps. :)</p>

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<p>Sirensong: ‘I don’t think that writing your counselor’s rec is actually legal…I would contact your schools about this.’</p>

<p>LMAO. What’re you, his Mom? :D</p>

<p>As for saying stuff like ‘you will never get in’, just go home kid. If you can’t encourage someone, do not discourage them either. Even if he does not get in, he’ll at least have a nice time thinking about going there…it might just be a significant experience in his life.</p>

<p>You sound like you have a deep inborn bias against Indians- ‘ORM’ and stuff…you should know that every grade 11 student in India has a drastic drop in percentage because of the sudden increase in academic load. Although I haven’t completed my high school in India, I know this for a fact, as my class’s Salutarion in grade 10, who got 95% in his grade 10 exams, got 65% in the first semester of grade 11. And judging by your posts, he was much smarter than you. :)</p>

<p>So, in short, you don’t know **** about India- a country you seem to despise anyway. Go home, and leave us losers alone. :)</p>

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<p>Relax. Just take SAT I again. I’m from DPS RKP. And 67 is just about fine. I know people who have gotten into MIT and Stanford from my school with not so good marks in 11th. Though do concentrate on 12th boards as well. Even my 9th and 10th were pretty hot. 11th was somewhat better than yours. And my 12th was not upto my expectations! CBSE is anyway crap shoot. So, no regrets. LOL.</p>

<p>You have good ECs, Recs. Overall high school performance is well above decent considering the fact that peeps have gotten into Ivies an all with similar grades! JUST ace your SAT1. </p>

<p>Best o Luck :)</p>

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<p>@ayushkhaitan: Attacking Sirensong was not necessary, your post gave an overall impression that you are quite immature. While I agree that he could have avoided saying that Akshat won’t get in, he does make some very valid points.</p>

<p>It is not an excuse to have low grades just because everybody else has low grades in that particular year. They are looking to admit exceptional students. And I am pretty sure they expect these students to handle any academic load.</p>

<p>To stay on topic, I highly recommend you consider other colleges as well. But there is definitely no harm in applying to Princeton and Harvard; The worst thing that could happen is that you lose the application fee.</p>

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<p>@Fumetsu
I did not mean to ‘attack’ Sirensong. However, his/her post seemed to be too aggressive and discouraging not to be handled with similar aggression. I’m sure the person referred to will understand the context the post was written in.
As for being immature, I’ll try and demonstrate some maturity by apologizing in advance in case you should feel that I’m ‘attacking’ you. :)</p>

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<p>Moreover, if you read my previous post, I have already addressed my opinion on his Akshat’s grades.
I said that if he does not have an exceptional talent in some field, he should concentrate on completing his engineering in India. In effect, I have corroborated with Sirensong’s ‘very valid points’.
The next post was in reply to his/her discouragement. :)</p>

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<p>Fair enough.</p>

<p>You don’t have to apologize to me. I do not know you or anyone else on here personally. I won’t judge you based on what you write here; When I said that your post gave me an “impression”, It doesn’t have to mean that I think you are immature.</p>

<p>However, starting a conversation/post with “LMAO. What’re you, his Mom? :D” is not what a lot of people would perceive as mature, Don’t you think? If you go through your post again, you might understand why.</p>

<p>As for your first post, I concur with most of what you said. Your second post however, was unnecessary.</p>