<p>Yeah the problem is not that the campus community or the wonderful facilities have changed overnight. They have not. The problem is that employers all across California are reading headlines today that they will not forget. “Oh yeah, wasn’t that the school that fudged the SAT numbers? Did you enjoy your time there?”</p>
<p>I imagine recruting this next few years will be tough. Image conscious companies (such as large IBs and Consulting) will think twice before hiring a CMC grad.</p>
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<p>the problem of the heap. At some point, there would have been kids on the border line (say between their state flagship with generous financial aid versus CMC), and those extra SAT points might have been enough to push them over into accepting.</p>
<p>Only on CC would you get a bunch of posters from other schools (you know who you are) sanctimoniously hyperventilating over the misfortunes of another rival school. Let’s shine a spotlight on all the schools, particularly the schools of these self-righteous posters and let’s see how that would come out. </p>
<p>For the poster who has never posted before but all of sudden has now become a prolific poster on this subject only, your holier-than-thou comments tell us a lot more more about you than sheds any light on CMC. I am sure that if any ED applicants decide they don’t want to go to CMC, the school will accommodate them. Believe me, there are plenty of kids who would happily take that spot. </p>
<p>Okay, now that I have had my say, all the sanctimonious critics can continue posting to their heart’s content, enjoying their moment of schadenfreude.</p>
<p>This is just great. We have rampant problem of students cheating in SAT testing. Now we have top liberal art college cheating on SAT scores. This remind me of Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme and the Lehman Brother debacles. I am waiting to see what other skeletons will be dragged out of the closets as the investigation unfold.</p>
<p>@collegegrl, I think you are right to focus on the fundamentals of the CMC education and community. The quality of the education at CMC is unchanged by this disclosure, and this setback is of a temporary nature.</p>
<p>There likely needs to be a service through College Board, applied to all colleges, which tabulates the exact averages and ranges of those in the admitted pool. Not difficult to do and this would provide much-need transparency to this process.</p>
<p>I do think the CMC leadership ought to take an extra step here in attempting to redress this problem. Establishing more merit scholarships or somehow committing more funds to students’ education and development would seem appropriate to me. The president needs to extend herself a little further in expressing institutional apology. How has the college recommitted itself to providing an irreplaceable educational experience for its students? For the administration, answering this question should be foremost in its communications with the public at this point.</p>
<p>One other thing - for CC posters to bemoan the undue emphasis on rankings is hilarious. Only here in CC land will you find hundreds of threads with untold numbers of posters obsessing with rankings and prestige. Now these same posters are outraged. It may be revealing to have some of your past posts reiterated here.</p>
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<p>ugh, choose another company please. These companies already have an alarming monopoly over many key educational services and these companies need to be more strictly regulated.</p>
<p>evita, yes, I do agree. Could be any company and the more independent from the rest of the process, the better!</p>
<p>I don’t think this rises to the level of Madoff-Ponzi scheme. Yes it is pretty bad but its not a failing of the entire institution.</p>
<p>Oh really, Prophet, that’s nice of you. For someone who has never posted before, but all of a sudden has this terrific urge to post on this subject, maybe it would be illuminating to fill the rest of us on who you are and your extraordinary interest in this subject.</p>
<p>I was simply responding earlier to someone who earlier drew some comparison.</p>
<p>I don’t have any axe to grind with Claremont in particular. I am a person whose education cost well into the 6 figures at a large east coast university. I am a person who thinks the hypocrisy of the administrators of all colleges and graduate schools needs some serious review. If you are going to charge people six figures and bury many students under a mountain of debt so you can pay 400,000 a year to school presidents then you should be honest in your dealings, honest about job prospects, and honest about costs. Its one thing when you say business people are sharks, wall street is full of sharks, or lawyers are sharks. Everyone knows this. These educators are the biggest sharks because they get away with passing off these high costs by acting as if they are working with the noblest of intentions. Students become blind to it because they are so caught up in the excitement of the moment, visiting schools, applying to schools. I am all for a discussion of any school that fudges numbers. </p>
<p>It sounds like maybe you are a parent, possibly of a student at the school. I suggest you be not mad with me but mad with the school who you are writing large checks to.</p>
<p>@Prophet12: That is a very measured response.</p>
<p>Okay prophet, now that you have had a chance to vent with your Occupy Wall Street rant, I hope you now got it out of your system. BTW, which school?</p>
<p>@fca719 I understand where you are coming from, however I don’t think the mistake of one administrator reflects on the integrity of the entire school. I don’t think CMC will be thought of as “the school that fudged the SAT scores” as someone earlier stated. I think this will blow over in a month.</p>
<p>“I imagine recruting this next few years will be tough. Image conscious companies (such as large IBs and Consulting) will think twice before hiring a CMC grad”</p>
<p>I may get in trouble for saying this, but the above comment is the most breathtakingly stupid statement I have seen at CC.</p>
<p>That’s not an OWS rant. Stop trying to label me. I will be honest and say I don’t know a heck of a lot about Claremont but I do know a fair amount about colleges generally. I don’t care for OWS’ message on higher ed.</p>
<p>As for school think BC/Brandeis/NYU. Not sure why it matters.</p>
<p>@parent57. No, the most stupid comment is “20 points is nothing”.</p>
<p>Good luck to your S/D. You know now he/she has a bitter taste in his/her mouth.</p>
<p>Prophet, because I may be stupid but I am not a fool. In your first post ever at CC, you compare the situation at CMC with being cheated by buying a TV. There is more to this than meets the eye. You probably have some personal vendetta. Did you get rejected from CMC?</p>
<p>Now I’m remembering that a college professor once told me that there aren’t nearly as many people with over 1400 SAT scores as colleges claim there are.</p>