<p>…Why would the president ever be responsible for college admissions? I don’t even understand why that would be a possibility…</p>
<p>Elbeen: I never related him with that. I pointed out how something can be visualized and maybe make a little change besides seeing the economic difficulty. </p>
<p>Since some of the people don’t generally see the possibility of change in this, maybe we can let it slip away.</p>
<p>Thanks for coming everyone.</p>
<p>^You did decide to make it public, dear:
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Yes, I do; what other means is there of pointing out that something sounds absurd? Even if your reasoning is “straightforward,” it is not necessarily excluded from being fallacious.</p>
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<p>Ohhhh, I understand now! :]</p>
<p>^ Mhm, sure thing.</p>
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<p>Here we go again.</p>
<p>I think people need to stop focusing on only the Ivies+equivalent as the “top schools”. I honestly do think that some publics, (UC System) can provide an education comparable to an Ivy–assumes you are a high achieving motivated student. </p>
<p>Regarding the topic: I, too, have wondered if the insane number of applicants would ever change, or if its a trend that will continue. I mean H will be down to sub 5% rate, if applicants keep coming in. Overall, all schools have become more competitive, its due to increased competition for a small number of acceptance slots. </p>
<p>Also, what’s with all the fallacious assumptions and ad hominems to the OP? Its a fair question.</p>
<p>Maybe if the acceptance rate gets low enough, people will be discouraged from applying and it will go up again.</p>
<p>Doubtful. There’s no real hazard to applying; sending an application to Harvard doesn’t have any effect on your other applications, and being rejected won’t negatively affect your life. You’ll be out 30-100 bucks, and maybe 10 minutes on the common app supplement for the given university, but ultimately that’s next to inconsequential. </p>
<p>Also Brando, some people don’t have access to a good in school public. My current state is probably in the better half, but our public schools are considered a joke to motivated students. </p>
<p>Call it an ad hominem if you like, but I can’t respond to the OP’s response to my first post. I honestly have no idea what you MEANT to say when you were typing, and to me it looks like gibberish.</p>
<p>OP is the epitome of “generation me”</p>
<p>“Colleges shouldn’t be so selective! I deserve to go to Harvard even though I got straight Cs in high school (with a D in wood shop)! And I deserve to go FOR FREE!”</p>
<p>I mean christ, you wanna get into Harvard? You pull yourself up by your boot straps, study hard, be an interesting person and apply. If you get in, great. If not you can still go to CC or another four-year school and then transfer if you’re still dead set on it.</p>
<p>Why do so many people apply to “top colleges”? Because the colleges encourage it. Its a numbers game influenced by the likes of USNWR. Besides, each application comes to the school with a $60-$100 cookie attached. Admissions offices are revenue centers now.</p>
<p>ain’t the college’s fault that people are sheep</p>
<p>Private Colleges have the right to do whatever they want, they don’t have to be “politically changed”. That’s why they’re called PRIVATE COLLEGES.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Private Colleges that take federal funding and go untaxed. All that “endowment” that HYP has? We call that taxable profits in the corporate world.</p>
<p>Again, you presumptuous cowards; I don’t attend a community college.</p>
<p>IDK about others but I never alleged that you go to a community college.</p>
<p>We’re just not sure why you’re basically saying people who aren’t smart enough to get in to top schools should be allowed to go there anyway.</p>
<p>Seachai, but of course you do and night school at that</p>
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<p>Mind asking you where you see that?</p>
<p>You’re quite immature for a college student. You do know that I don’t need to insult you.</p>
<p>This thread made me shake with laughter.</p>
<p>Really, Seachai86442? Increasing enrollment destroys schools - just look at the New York’s CUNY open enrollment experiment! It took City College, previously acknowledged as the “poor man’s Harvard,” and turned it into a third-rate institution. Furthermore, it’s not really the government’s place to be deciding such things; your proposition borders on something with its ideological foundations in moral dirigisme, which I find repugnant.</p>
<p>Doesn’t matter. The fact that everyone is applying for seats in all distinct types of institutions in this period is increasingly competitive no matter if it’s Harvard or not. From majority of our experiences personally, we all wonder if the trend at this rate will alter so that enrollment is not as copious or the acceptance rate isn’t as restraint as before. Although I can’t form anymore refutations for such an idea, I will say that it is still considerable. But if you disagree, that’s fine!</p>
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<p>This sentence betrays your lack of proficiency in the English language; a good deal of your words are used incorrectly.</p>
<p>However, I will try to respond to the portion of your statement that I do understand. Quite frankly, the amount of students admitted is the school’s prerogative, and the government has no place in meddling in such affairs.* Again, as I’ve said, there seems to be an element of moral dirigisme behind your actions. Moral dirigisme is an ineffective policy at best and a recipe for disaster at worst. I disagree with your idea on those grounds alone, though you are giving me plenty of auxiliary reasons.</p>
<p>*I am willing to be a bit more lax in the application of this statement to wholly publicly funded institutions.</p>