Now that the first decisions are out for the Class of 2021, I’m restarting this popular discussion topic for another year. I hope one of the moderators will pin this to the top of the thread so people can share the admissions rates and statistics as they are released.
Starting off with Penn:
Penn ED 1354 out of 6147 (22.0%)
I’ve heard that Stanford and University of Georgia have already announced.
Here’s a UGA blog post:
http://ugaadmissions.blogspot.com/2016/11/early-action-decisions-are-available.html
Penn ED 1354 out of 6147 (22.0%)
University of Georgia EA 8059 out of 15,614 (51.6%)
@“Erin’s Dad” Any chance of getting this discussion pinned to the top of the thread so people can find it? Lots of interest in last year’s discussion.
How did UGA all of a sudden get so hard to get into? Those stats are very, very high
Hmm, Stanford has decided not to provide admissions data for REA this year.
@citymama9 said: “How did UGA all of a sudden get so hard to get into? Those stats are very, very high”
I think more and more, kids in-state who qualify for HOPE or Zell are finding that there is no better deal than staying in-state with the state tuition money, and if you’re not a Tech kid, UGA is your the next “best” school. We hear stories of kids who weren’t even all that keen on UGA being offered all sorts of perks by their parents to stay in-state (“Go to UGA and we’ll buy you a new car!”) because of the savings there. So for the last 5-10 years the admission stats have been crawling up-up-up.
Friends my age who went to UGA “back in the day” say they’d never be able to get in given the admission standards, now. As application numbers go up, they can afford to be more and more selective.
Adding Williams:
Penn ED 1354 out of 6147 (22.0%)
Williams ED 257 out of 728 (35.3%)
University of Georgia EA 8059 out of 15,614 (51.6%)
I’ve always thought that early decision acceptance rates includes students who were originally accepted in Early Decision, as well as students who were deferred and then later accepted. I’m assuming now this is not the case?
@IN4655 ED/EA acceptance rates do not include the deferred and later accepted students. A handful of schools do report this figure, but, for obvious reasons, it is not until the spring when the final RD acceptances are sent.
I’m curious then, considering that more of these applicants are accepted than I originally thought how much easier is it really for an Early Decision applicant to be accepted? Say for instance Northwestern whose Regular Decision Acceptance Rate hovers around 8-11% but ED acceptance rate hovers more around 30-37%. Adjusted this could mean that 8-10% of people who apply RD first are accepted while over 40% of people who applied ED could be sooner or later accepted. Is this mostly due to a more competitive class or are students getting in that much easier? It would be interesting to see an average SAT for ED to RD admittance to compare the two in a case like this where there is such a gap between the two.
It’s a perennial question, whether there is an advantage to apply ED or not. I think the school admissions officers say no, that there is no advantage, because once you take out the athletes and legacies, the numbers even out. At some point with the gap as wide as it is with some schools, it’s hard to disguise that advantage.
Columbia ED release, but as is their usual practice, they do not provide data on the number of students accepted.
There has been a pretty large increase in the number of ED apps for Penn (up 7%), Williams (up 25%) and Columbia (up 16%). Do you think that the number of ED apps are up overall, or do you think the total number is about the same, which would mean other schools showing a decrease in ED apps?
(Can you tell I’m hoping that the school my D is EDing to shows a 25% drop in ED apps, LOL).
I believe the change in FAFSA filing from Jan to Oct has greatly contributed to Early Admissions numbers.
A couple of remarks:
I think ED applications are increasing because students/parents/counselors are figuring out that it is the most likely path to a top 15-20 school. Also, everyone is starting preparation for exams early, so very few of the strong applicants are not ready with scores by 1st November or even 15th October.
Schools like ED because it helps them both report a lower admission rate and higher yield. Suppose a school has 2000 seats, about 40% yield for RD, 3,000 ED applicants and 32,000 RD applicants. Now, if you accept 50% of the class in ED, you need to admit 2500 in RD. This means an acceptance rate of 10%, and yield of nearly 57%.
Now, instead if you shoot for a smaller fraction of class from ED, say, 500. This will mean admitting 3750 from RD, leading to an acceptance rate of 12%, and yield below 50%.
Which one will a university prefer?
Cornell ED data and newspaper article. It contains a chart that I could not copy, but it contains this additional information:
Accepted 25.6%
Deferred 20.9%
Rejected 53.5%
The early decision applicant pool for the Class of 2021 was the biggest in Cornell’s history.
http://cornellsun.com/2016/12/13/cornell-sees-10-percent-boom-in-early-decision-applications/
Wesleyan ED article, but Wesleyan continues practice of not releasing their acceptance rate.
http://newsletter.blogs.wesleyan.edu/2016/12/12/early-decision-applications-up-more-than-16/