<p>The lawsuit is not just about the error in the scores. It's also based on the fact that College Board had knowledge of the problem early on but waited two months to notify the test takers. By that point college apps were done, with some students giving up their dreams because of inferior scores. You can't asume that the students' scores didn't influence where they applied. Had College Board acted responsibly and notified the students promptly, the lawsuit would have less merit.</p>
<p>I think its great.I wonder how many seniors were affected that dont even know about it. I will come forward and join this class action suit</p>
<p>About time. I really want to see College Board lose this one.</p>
<p>I wonder if there have been other CollegeBoard-related cases.</p>
<p>I agree with those that say SAT scores are not everything, but the College Board has a monopoly over educational testing and their nonprofit status has their CEO with a nice salary... I think any slip up is due for litigation whether it is right or not.</p>
<p>fırst of all, ıt ıs not necessary to prove that the low SAT score was the sole reason beyond any reasonable doubt. In cıvıl cases, the verdıct ıs based on preponderance of the presented evıdence. Guılt does not have to be proved wıthout doubt. In addıtıon, to those who saıd that thıs was an accıdent and that CollegeBoard dıd not do thıs on purpose, CollegeBoard may stıll be lıable ıf found neglıgent.</p>
<p>It does seem like a silly topic for a lawsuit- but although the college admissions process doesn't depend totally on SAT scores, high scores are absolutely essential to get into some of the better schools. I heard of one student who thought she scored three hundred points lower on her test than she actually did; this is the difference between Ivy and non-Ivy, or a first choice and a safety school.</p>
<p>Of course, it depends on the individual case...</p>
<p>Good for him.</p>
<p>I hope collegeboard goes bankrupt.</p>
<p>collegeboard = lucifer</p>
<p>Perhaps this requries a little bit more explanation on why the person will not win.</p>
<p>For one, the defense will go out and show that CollegeBoard did something to rectify this mistake.</p>
<p>Two, there is no such thing as a 100% error-proof. That is life when dealing with human beings.</p>
<p>Three, College admisssions are the ones that insist on SAT testing and the monopoly that exists isn't via CB but rather the universities that insist on CB services.</p>
<p>Four, College admissions are a fickle process where SAT scores are a part of the overall experience.</p>
<p>Five, if they are Ivy's, the defense counters that State schools are more than adequate to fulfill the needs of the majority of students taking the test.</p>
<p>The suit will show what? That CB screwed up, that there were mistakes on a small percentage of the population and that CB did refund fees, inform colleges.</p>
<p>I don't like having to take CB tests. Doesn't mean I agree with frivolous lawsuits.</p>
<p>And finaly, this could also be construed by CB defense as a victimless crime. It was 100% satisfaction, but guess what? Most things in life aren't.</p>
<p>CB deserves it.</p>
<p>this is to making the lives of young high schoolers a living hell with all those damned standarized tests and making a ridiculously large amount of money with all those sign up fees. :D</p>
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For one, the defense will go out and show that CollegeBoard did something to rectify this mistake.
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Arguably, they did not do enough.</p>
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Two, there is no such thing as a 100% error-proof. That is life when dealing with human beings.
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Right, and when they screw up, there are consequences. Otherwise every costly mistake can be attributed to "Nobody's perfect!"</p>
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Three, College admisssions are the ones that insist on SAT testing and the monopoly that exists isn't via CB but rather the universities that insist on CB services.
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Doesn't affect the lawsuit at all.</p>
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Four, College admissions are a fickle process where SAT scores are a part of the overall experience.
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You know, I think people on CC are beginning to underestimate the importance of SAT scores. They are one of the main factors, not a supplement.</p>
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Five, if they are Ivy's, the defense counters that State schools are more than adequate to fulfill the needs of the majority of students taking the test.
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OK, so what? If a cable service provider gets sued for not giving their customers all of their channels, they can't just say, "The channels we gave you are more than adequate to fulfill your TV watching experience."</p>
<p>"Arguably, they did not do enough."
I agree 200% and with everything else you noted.
While CB did do something, i.e. refund $, notify colleges, they didn't do enough or fast enough. They are in the college business and know the importance of the scores and the timing. They simply waited too long to notify. In my mind it still comes back to the issue that they did not act responsibly in resolving their error. If the students had been notified promptly, before applications, of a possible problem, there would be no grounds for a lawsuit.</p>
<p>I'm glad the kid sued.</p>
<p>Did you guys read this part?</p>
<p>Test-takers whose scores were made too low had their results corrected, but the College Board has declined to fix the inflated scores. That has angered some college officials who say they could unfairly influence admissions and scholarship decisions.</p>
<p>That's incredibly unfair.</p>
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<p>What is enough for you, Mr. Arti? Ultimately, CB will say that the scores were rectified, admissions offices were notified as well as yourself. Fees were refunded. That's what general happens when there is an unsatisfied customer. Now, if there was neglible reckless treatment of the scores, which resulted in tis happening, as well as knowledge beforehand that this would happen, then you would have a case. Mistakes occured, yes, and the customer was returned what was due to him. Now if you want to see the CB monopoly destroyed, ask your admissions officer at your future university.</p>
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Right, and when they screw up, there are consequences. Otherwise every costly mistake can be attributed to "Nobody's perfect!"
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<p>The consequences are of course, public relations due, lack of prestige and having to return money back. A lawsuit because they screwed up? I don't understand. They already faced the consequences. </p>
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You know, I think people on CC are beginning to underestimate the importance of SAT scores. They are one of the main factors, not a supplement.
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<p>Good thing I don't consider myself a typical CC person. </p>
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OK, so what? If a cable service provider gets sued for not giving their customers all of their channels, they can't just say, "The channels we gave you are more than adequate to fulfill your TV watching experience."
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<p>Horrible analogy. FIrst of all, CB gave you all their support. They regraded the test, they nofified those universities. Now, you are going to argue "but that stopped them fro mappying to "x" better school." </p>
<p>The defense responds: You havec no arguable right to a higher education except to a state university if you meet admissions standards. </p>
<p>I dislike frivolous lawsuits very much. Oh, in your cable company case, you paid for the whole services. Not just part of them. With CB, you paid to take a test and for it to be graded. Now, it was originally graded wrong but then fixed and then they sent your modified scores to the universities you sent scores to.</p>
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What is enough for you, Mr. Arti? Ultimately, CB will say that the scores were rectified, admissions offices were notified as well as yourself. Fees were refunded. That's what general happens when there is an unsatisfied customer. Now, if there was neglible reckless treatment of the scores, which resulted in tis happening, as well as knowledge beforehand that this would happen, then you would have a case. Mistakes occured, yes, and the customer was returned what was due to him. Now if you want to see the CB monopoly destroyed, ask your admissions officer at your future university.
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An investigation as to why the scores were misgraded in the first place could possibly reveal negligible recklessness (the humidity excuse seems fishy to a lot of people). But the bigger issue at hand is the fact that low scores likely affected matriculations, scholarships, decisions to apply, etc. which is irrepairable damage.</p>
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The consequences are of course, public relations due, lack of prestige and having to return money back. A lawsuit because they screwed up? I don't understand. They already faced the consequences.
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And if the kid wins the lawsuit, BAM, more consequences.</p>
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Good thing I don't consider myself a typical CC person.
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But you sure do imply strongly that SAT scores are <em>just</em> a part of the overall application and not one of the <em>most</em> imoprtant parts.</p>
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Horrible analogy. FIrst of all, CB gave you all their support. They regraded the test, they nofified those universities. Now, you are going to argue "but that stopped them fro mappying to "x" better school."</p>
<p>The defense responds: You havec no arguable right to a higher education except to a state university if you meet admissions standards.
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I really don't know what you're getting at, but if I'm interpreting correctly, many people would argue that everyone DOES in fact have the right to apply to higher education beyond state schools.</p>
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I dislike frivolous lawsuits very much. Oh, in your cable company case, you paid for the whole services. Not just part of them. With CB, you paid to take a test and for it to be graded. Now, it was originally graded wrong but then fixed and then they sent your modified scores to the universities you sent scores to.
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You're right, my analogy is terrible, since it doesn't account for the factor in which irrepairable damage had been done by the cable company even though they went ahead and gave you the services you originally paid for.</p>
<p>I have a feeling Ferny Reyes would be singing a much different tune if he was one of those test takers and the scores impacted his acceptance, scholarship $, etc. It's much easier to be a critic when you are not one of the victims.</p>
<p>Here it comes.</p>
<p>I don't get how people can call this a frivolous lawsuit when clearly CB made a huge mistake by raising some students' scores arbitrarily and only rectifying others. If I were a student who got the CORRECT test score and knew someone who had theirs arbitrarily boosted, then I'd be angry as well.</p>
<p>This is obviously a justified lawsuit considering students were treated unfairly and unequally merely through chance.</p>
<p>CB needs to figure out a solution to resolve this problem so that it never happens again.</p>
<p>The best solution I can think of is to score each test twice, in different facilities. There are also variations to that solution. One I can think of is to modify the answer sheet, to make in triplicate, like a sales reciept. The student can take a copy home with him. and CB can publish an answer sheet at an appropriate time. That way, everyone can be reasonably sure that the tests are fairly graded.</p>
<p>This will probably cost more $$. I would pay more (about 10% more) if I could personally take home my answer sheet and grade it myself, as a check and balance against CB's score.</p>
<p>Any more than a 10% increase is gouging the consumer.</p>
<p>If CB does not come up with a reasonable solution, I think that more high schools should seriously consider using the ACT as an alternative to the SATs.</p>
<p>While I think that the students negatively affected by CBs mistake should be able to sue, I doubt if the outcome is going to be positive for anyone except the lawyers. I think if you really want to send a message to the CB, students need to stop enrolling for SATs and use the ACTs instead. It is going to have to hurt CB where it really counts - in their pocketbooks - for them to initiate change.</p>