college for high functioning aspergers

<p>S is a jr in competitive high school. Very bright, straight A student, in many honors and AP classes. ACT score predicted above 32. Excels in Math and Science in particular and wants to pursue something in the sciences in college. Significant social weakness and has great difficulty making friends because of fear of being rejected and limited interests. Does have a couple good friends and desires friendships but needs assistance. Also weak daily living skills and needs reminders.</p>

<p>Any suggestions of colleges that will meet both his academic and social needs.</p>

<p>Landmark College has been ranked #1 for students with learning disabilities in a number of sources and has come up quite a bit in a listserv I subscribe to for students who are twice exceptional (are gifted & have a learning disability.) I don’t have any first hand knowledge of them though.
Good luck!</p>

<p>I would suggest schools close enough for you to get to in case you need to. If he struggles with making friends, you don’t want to send him across the country to some great academic school only for him to feel like he has no support system there with no friends and no family nearby and end up crumbling from the stress of that alone. It will also make it easier for you to check in if necessary-- you hear it time and time again on these boards where an aspie student falls apart with his executive functioning and parents thought everything was fine until it was too late to help. You have to be realistic, whatever that means for your S, about his ability to thrive academically and socially in a situation where he starts off completely isolated except for any disabilities services the school may provide. When most students enter these situations they make friends fairly quickly and they figure things out, but for an aspie student it sometimes takes longer to find their footing in a new place. You have to decide whether or not he can really manage himself with you hours away with no idea what’s going on.</p>

<p>That isn’t to say that I automatically assume your S will have these problems, but since these issues are fairly common it is worth considering.</p>

<p>My daughter attended Reed College which is strong in the sciences- ( also attracts students on the autistic spectrum)</p>

<p>Oftentimes it seems that those drawn to the sciences have at least a few aspergery like traits, and since he seems to have had success in his high school academics, I would bet that many schools with a decent learning support program would be worth looking into.
( I would suggest the Colleges that Change lives- as a place to start)
<a href=“http://www.ctcl.org/[/url]”>http://www.ctcl.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Easy access to the school from home, and a smaller rather than bigger size, may also be worth considering.</p>

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<p>He is probably getting that support from parents now, right? And he will continue to need that support, from someone, right? Think very hard about how he will get it when he is in college. I strongly recommend that he attend college close to home, so that you can continue to monitor his progress. Several Asperger parents here (including me) have reported on how colleges that claimed to be able to support Asperger kids ended up not supplying the support their child needed.</p>

<p>And don’t listen to parents who don’t have kids with Aspergers, and who say that your kid “should” be able to function without support. What can that “should” possibly mean? If he can’t function without support, then he won’t function without support, no matter what “should” happen.</p>

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<p>I would look at a number of schools your son would be happy to attend if he did not have Asperger’s, and then see if a support program can be developed and individualized, rather than look for schools with learning support programs first, especially if he is not receiving much (or any) academic support in the high school. If your student would have problems meeting a specific requirement (foreign language, for instance), you would probably want to clear any modifications that would be necessary with the disabilities office.</p>

<p>Aside from that, I would consider (for a science or engineering major) a school with a co-op program, or a research university with ample opportunities for student research beginning freshman year. The hands-on experience is invaluable.</p>

<p>Additionally, I would be pro-active and anticipate that an AS student might need help with</p>

<p>-finding an appropriate living situation (standard double might not work)</p>

<p>-asking for help and participating in study groups with other students</p>

<p>-understanding the grading system in science classes (steep curves, etc.)</p>

<p>-daily living (healthy diet, how to make doctor’s appointments, hygiene issues)</p>

<p>-establishing friendships, joining and functioning in social groups</p>

<p>-dealing with bureaucracy (meeting deadlines, etc.)</p>

<p>-scheduling</p>

<p>I would also make sure that you could visit on a regular basis, especially during the first year or two, and that you establish a contact with a university person who sees your child on a regular basis (does not necessarily have to be someone in the disabilities office) and get your student to sign any releases necessary to exchange information.</p>

<p>Students with AS from our area who have majored in science and engineering have been successful at a number of research universities that would be in the range of schools your son would likely consider. </p>

<p>Once you settle on some schools, you might want to contact some AS support groups to see if there are any students from those universities active in those groups. In some cases, there are professors (especially from engineering schools) who participate in these groups. Or, you could name schools on this board and see if there are any parents or students with experience at these schools.</p>

<p>One often overlooked book that I would recommend looking at, is Judith Cohen’s <em>Success with Autism</em>, which describes the college experiences of a student studying to become a math teacher.</p>

<p>I would have your son read Temple Grandin’s books as well (including the the one on social skills she co-authored with Sean Barron.) You might also take a look at the AHEADD program in Pittsburgh (Carol Komich Hare) which supports students at a wide range of Pittsburgh schools, even if your son is interested in going elsewhere, to get an idea of the types of help students can need.</p>

<p>Also, keep in mind that you have time left before your son starts college to see that he continues to develop academic and social skills. By the beginning of senior year, you should reach a decision wrt whether, how, and when your son will disclose his AS. I do not think there is one correct answer that would cover every AS student.</p>

<p>My aspie son made it through college at CSU Fresno and was well suppported. We live less than an hour away so we could help when needed. Housing was also cooperative and gave consideration to his needs. He managed to do a summer session at UCSC which was even further away and did well too. He still has social issues but he makes progress. I think you have to find your family tolerances too. You have to be as comfortable as he is with the environment or it will be a difficult few years.</p>

<p>Very similar situation to ours. My suggestion for you is:
Carnegie Mellon
Carnegie Mellon
Carnegie Mellon</p>

<p>I hope that made my point clear!
If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.</p>

<p>Agree with Cardinal Fang…if you are having doubts he would best be served living closer to home. If you have a good state flagship he could enter the honors program.</p>

<p>Thanks for all the suggestions. I know there are some programs out east and I will certainly investigate them esp Carnegie Mellon, but we live in Illinois and I am nervous for him to go that far away, and wondered if anyone had experience with any schools in the Midwest. Thanks</p>

<p>You may want to consider a smaller environment rather than a large university setting. Rose-Hulman is in Indiana and is quite strong in engineering if that is your student’s choice of study.</p>

<p>More and more colleges are developing progams that provide services specifically for students with AspergerÂ’s, although like many LD programs, they are often be fee based, for instance Marshall University, Rutgers, Univ of Conn, Univ of Alabama, Fairleigh Dickinson. </p>

<p>Here are various lists of college suggestions for students with AspergerÂ’s.</p>

<p>[ASPFI</a> - Asperger Foundation International - College Resource Guide](<a href=“http://www.aspfi.org/college/]ASPFI”>ASPFI - Asperger Foundation International - College Resource Guide)</p>

<p>[College</a> Programs for Students with Asperger Syndrome](<a href=“http://www.collegeautismspectrum.com/collegeprograms.html]College”>College Programs - College Autism Spectrum)</p>

<p>[Colleges[/url</a>]</p>

<p>[url=<a href=“The Best College Rankings and Lists | Inside College | CollegeXpress”>The Best College Rankings and Lists | Inside College | CollegeXpress]Colleges</a> for Students with Asperger’s: The Friendly Ones | InsideCollege.com](<a href=“http://www.larsperner.com/autism/colleges.htm]Colleges[/url”>http://www.larsperner.com/autism/colleges.htm)</p>

<p>[Colleges</a> for Students with Asperger’s: The Very Friendly Ones | InsideCollege.com](<a href=“The Best College Rankings and Lists | Inside College | CollegeXpress”>The Best College Rankings and Lists | Inside College | CollegeXpress)</p>

<p>In Illinois, you might look at Southern Illinois University-Carbondale especially if your student will be receiving any academic/LD accommodations.</p>

<p>I would also agree that a big part of the Aspie student’s success in college will depend not just on the specific college and the kinds of resources it offeres, but also on how prepared the student is when he first starts out – how well does he understand his academic needs, learning styles and strengths/weaknesses? How familiar is he with campus resources and how well will he be able to advocate for himself and seek out services when needed? How strong are his time management and organizational skills? One good resource you might look at is Ann Palmer’s book, “Realizing the College Dream…” which is for students on the autism spectrum. Here are a few other links to checklists and tips to consider in choosing a college and preparing your student for college:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.dixonlifecoaching.com/docs/IECA-Aspergers-chart.pdf[/url]”>http://www.dixonlifecoaching.com/docs/IECA-Aspergers-chart.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>-from an Illinois-based site:</p>

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<p>[CHOICES:</a> Autism Spectrum Information and Resources](<a href=“http://sites.google.com/site/postsecondarychoices/autism-spectrum-information-and-resources]CHOICES:”>http://sites.google.com/site/postsecondarychoices/autism-spectrum-information-and-resources)</p>

<p>Single room was very important to my son’s well being. He needed a place to retreat.</p>

<p>As you interview disabilities offices, ask point blank whether they will provide an executive function coach - a professional, or at least a trained grad student, (not a peer mentor) with whom he will meet twice a week. Many disablities offices can get notetakers and testing in a quiet environment, but they refuse to provide a coach - they consider it more akin to providing a “personal attendant.” I’m about to initiate this battle with my son’s school.</p>

<p>adamom, here is the ugly truth that no one will tell you: The crash and burn rate of Asperger’s kids who go away to a four year college some distance from home is distressingly high…I would say 100%, but I don’t think that is accurate. Some people with Asperger’s do not appear to have a significate executive function disorder, so if they can handle the social part, they are okay. But if your student has an executive function disorder, unless you can get an executive function coach, it is far better for your son to be close enough to home that you can be the coach when needed.</p>

<p>The reality is harsh. I could have written your identical post two years ago, and I’m pretty sure I would not have listened to the advice I am giving you, but please consider what we are all saying here. In my case, there was no one in our lives - not a single person in the school district - who had one second of experience in the issues facing students with Asperger’s in college.</p>

<p>When I got the “come and get your son” call from Son’s school last semester, I started to look for advice online. I found this article and actually spoke to the author. He described my Son’s issues to me without me saying anything and he was spot on.</p>

<p><a href=“http://aspergercenter.com/articles/college-experience-asperger-syndrome.pdf[/url]”>http://aspergercenter.com/articles/college-experience-asperger-syndrome.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Thanks missypie for the article. It was very interesting and will help us in our search.</p>

<p>That’s a fascinating article, missypie. I think it will be as useful to me (as an educational and career counselor) as it is to AS parents.</p>

<p>“Many disablities offices can get notetakers and testing in a quiet environment, but they refuse to provide a coach - they consider it more akin to providing a “personal attendant.” I’m about to initiate this battle with my son’s school.”</p>

<p>I’m really just curious here and not trying to start any argument, but do you think this should be done at the college’s expense? Or would this be a paid position set up through the school?</p>

<p>many of the existing programs that provide individualized supports for Aspie students are separate fee-based programs (see for instance the third link in the group of 5 that I posted in #12 above)</p>

<p>Spend some time on the website for Earlham College, and maybe make a call or two. It might be an interesting choice in your region.</p>

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<p>Fee based would work for me…all my son was offered was a peer mentor (who was available to all freshmen). The irritiating thing is that the school’s website says that coaches are availble for anyone (i.e. even those without disablities) who needs academic help. As it turns out, coaching is only availble to those on academic probation.</p>