<p>So i was looking around the CGS threads on here for BU and it looks like unfortunately my grades are closer to a match for the CGS and not the CAS. </p>
<p>anyone who was accepted into CGS…what were your stats? what was your experience in the CGS program like? </p>
<p>If you were pre-med or pre-law were you accepted into a good medical/law school? ( I have hopes of going to Columbia, NYU, Penn, Stanford, U of Chicago, BC, Northwestern, or Georgetown for law school) so i was wondering if I were to enter in the CGS would that hurt my chance of getting into one of those top law schools. </p>
<p>Do the students in the other colleges make fun of/ridicule CGS students? are they really looked down upon by their peers and do they refuse to associate themselves with them? ( like the crayons, scissors, glue thing?) I honestly don’t want to go to a school with a negative environment toward students who may have test scores a little below their own. </p>
<p>Would you suggest me going to a school like Pitt, Marquette or Depaul instead of entering into the CGS at BU? </p>
<p>I’m also curious about this. What are some stats of accepted students? Granted, I want to go to BU no matter what. I would go to CGS and transfer to CAS/COM after a year.</p>
<p>I’m just freaking out whether or not I can even get into CGS. I’ll post a better chance thread seeing as my last one was a bit…lacking.</p>
<p>1) Yes, you will be made fun of. Probably not in a malicious way, but it will happen.
2) I would NOT suggest going to BU if you want to go to one of those law schools. Law school admissions is mostly based on UGPA/LSAT. Which undergrad you went to isn’t all that important. So going to a school with a low average GPA when you know you’ll be one of the least qualified people there to begin with seems like a poor choice. </p>
<p>That said, what is your SAT? If your SAT isn’t good enough to get you into CAS, what makes you think your LSAT will be good enough to get you into a T-14 law school?</p>
<p>What BUSenior said is true about your LSAT…if you don’t do well on standardized tests, the LSAT probably won’t be your thing either. While they’re not the same test, the correlation is high between the two. Don’t make your decision based on the possibility of getting into a T14.</p>
<p>However, you might find that you do really well in CGS. I’m not saying it’s “easy” but it is more a “transitional” environment into college than just jumping into CAS. So you might do better. If you have a good GPA, you’ll do well on law school apps, even if half your UGPA is from CGS. Like BU Senior said, your undergraduate institution doesn’t matter a lick for law school apps.</p>
<p>And the whole being looked down on thing is kinda silly…no one will make fun of YOU specifically…they might make fun of CGS. However, people also make fun of CAS students, COM students, and SMG students generally. Each school has positive and negative traits. Please please please don’t take anything personally. No one will act maliciously or “refuse to associate” with you just because you’re in CGS. Both my roommates soph year were in CGS and I loved em to death, and they were both really smart girls…they just didn’t rock their SATs.</p>
<p>thanks everyone for the info. for those mentioning the correlation between the LSAT’s and the SAT’s…I did not do very well on the SAT. I did better on the ACT - I took them again and got a 27, but still not great, and of course I would study my butt off for the LSAT’s.</p>
<p>I’m just saying that if I were you I wouldn’t bet tens of thousands of dollars of tuition on the chance that I’d be able to a) get a better GPA than thousands of more qualified classmates and b) suddenly stop sucking at standardized tests. </p>
<p>Suppose you need, say, a 3.5/170 to have a realistic shot at any of those schools (besides BC).</p>
<p>GPA: 3.5 would probably be about top 20% at BU. If you can’t get in to anything other than CGS, you’re among the least qualified students in your class, but you plan on beating 80% of them.</p>
<p>LSAT: 170 is top 3% of LSAT takers, your 27 is top 12% of ACT takers. Not to mention that that was a retake and you did worse on the SAT. And I suspect that LSAT takers are, on average, a higher-achieving segment of the population than ACT takers. But you plan on studying wicked hahd.</p>
<p>Possible? Yes. Likely? No. Worth betting whatever BU tuition would cost you/your parents? Guess that’s up to you.</p>
<p>What I’m saying is that if all you want to do when you’re all grown up is go to law school, then go to the cheapest, easiest state school you can find, get a 4.0, study hard for the LSAT, and graduate with no debt. If not, your only law-school related consideration in choosing an undergrad should be minimizing debt.</p>
<p>BUSenior is mostly right, but I’d take the whole “you’re coming in less qualifed so your gpa will automatically be lower” thing with a grain of salt. College is a new experience for EVERYONE, so there’s a lot of transition to be had even with the smartest of students. I had a higher SAT/GPA than some of my friends coming in to BU, but didn’t end up doing as well. This was for a variety of reasons: some people are better at studying, some end up in majors that are easier for them, some game the system better and take easy classes, some just plain know how to work. You absolutely can still do well at BU even if you don’t enter with the highest stats.</p>
<p>I saw in another thread that you’re a URM, so automatically your chances of getting into a T-14 law school with slightly lower test scores are better. You’ll still need to do very well on the LSAT, as you’ve acknowledged, but you can afford to have slightly lower scores. </p>
<p>Think about debt and a state school too though…a lot of my friends who stayed at my state school did better than me GPA wise (not because they were smarter or worked harder but because the school was easier) did about the same or better than I did on their LSATs, and ended up at great law schools. Same goes with my roommate now (I’m in law school at William and Mary). She went to University of Kentucky, got a 4.0, did poorly on her LSAT, but still ended up here because of her high gpa.</p>
<p>All this being said…don’t let any of this dissuade you from BU if you want to go there!!! Law school is 4 years away…and no matter what you’re thinking about now, you’re going to do well at a school you love (the converse is also true; if you hate your state school, you won’t be getting great grades while miserable). I love love loved BU, and I wouldn’t trade my 3.7 for a 4.0 at big state U any day. CGS is a great program, and you’ll get a great education.</p>
<p>thank you both, i totally agree…i’m going to seriously think about going to Pitt, or a school where I get offered a lot of money. I go to a private college prep high school, so I’m not really worried about college being a problem for me or getting below a 3.4 and in my major I want to have at least a 3.7. I set high expectations for myself and will do well wherever I go. Alumnae who come back often say how well prepared they are. I mean if I go to Pitt my gpa would probs be similar to my gpa at BU…aren’t they about the same caliber schools?</p>
<p>I already know this whole gpa thing…I graduated in the top 10% of my grade school class, and I am the only one who went to a private catholic school…everyone else went to archdiocesan schools or public schools. Everyone who was in the top 10% is still within at least the top 20% except me. Since I went to this ridiculously hard high school, I’m not even in the top 30%. of a class of 120. I know if I went to an easier school my gpa would be a lot higher. So I sort of on a lesser scale know the effects of choosing a school where you know you’ll do well. I don’t exactly regret going to the high school I am at, but I am resentful of their high gpa’s.</p>
<p>If you went to a good high school, you’ll be in a better position than most others starting at BU. good luck with everything!!!</p>
<p>and yes…BU and Pitt are similar caliber, but BU probably has a lower average GPA since it seems to have a low average gpa compared to most places (I don’t know Pitt’s specifically).</p>