College Romances

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Guys who claim to be anti-marriage are a bunch of things...delusional being one of them.

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<p>Do you feel the same way about women who don't want to marry?</p>

<p>And furthermore, it appears that I could've been a little more careful about the wording in my last post. I have been in the past, and I wasn't this time, and I was called 'delusional' because of it, go figure. Consider the following:</p>

<p>I don't want to marry.
I'm not in the anti-marriage movement.</p>

<p>Let that sink in for a sec, yes, I have participated on anti-marriage boards (and probably still would be, if they weren't shut down -_-), but I don't know enough about the 'anti-marriage' movement to consider myself a 'part of it'. It appears to be too biased towards secular humanism (although there were Christians on those boards and others who were tolerant towards religion), and frankly, I'm not quite sure what exactly the goals of the movement are, so I don't want to consider myself a part of it.</p>

<p>By that same token, maybe it was unfair of me to classify those others as being in the 'anti-marriage' movement. I rescind that phrasing and would like to say that those people I was referring to were against marriage and participated on anti-marriage boards.</p>

<p>Why is it that women are praised for choosing not to marry, yet when men make that same choice, they are 'delusional' 'Peter pans' 'commitment phobes' 'toxic bachelors', the list goes on and on...</p>

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I know what the divorce rate is and all, but I still think marriage and a family is really all you can live for these days.

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<p>I suppose its a good thing I have a family, now don't I?</p>

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Money is good, but it's transient. Money won't miss you when you die. It won't be a shoulder to cry on when life gets you down.

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<p>It's a good thing I don't worship money, no? Much to the disgust of several on these boards, I'm a Christian, and I can't serve both God and money.</p>

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And you could get the best degree and the best job making the best money...and you can be dead and gone the next day. They will clear out your desk and hire someone else.

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<p>ANybody can play the worse case scenario game...</p>

<p>You could get the best wife and the best kids and have the time of your life being a father...then she decides that its no longer worth it or you have some irreconcilable disagreement and divorces you the next day. Then she'll clear out your closet and marry someone else. </p>

<p>Is that always going to happen in any marriage, of course not! (or else we wouldn't have much of a society, now would we?) But does it happen in some marriages, yes! Some people (including myself) feel that marriage just isn't worth the risk of failure. Other people (also including myself) feel that BASE jumping isn't worth the risk, I could continue in a similar fashion...</p>

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Even if you don't make the best grades, if you go to school long enough, and go to class enough, you'll graduate. Maybe not in four years, but still. Experience, widsom, and social knowledge aren't things you can fully get on the Internet or in a classroom. You've got to live it.

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<p>No arguments here, and what does any of that have to do with not marrying? Jaso9n2, I thought that I wouldn't have to tell this to you but...</p>

<p>Just because I don't want to marry and I don't advocate dating while in college doesn't mean that I support living in the library only coming out to go to the bathroom for four years and for the rest of your life. (I've been careful not to advocate not marrying while I'm on these boards, only not college dating)</p>

<p>Why is it that people seem so quick to assume that a lack of desire to marry or date = wanting to be a sad, miserable, pathetic, lonely loner for 4 years and the rest of your life? It's becoming rather frustrating, really.</p>

<p>I've advocated (and will continue to advocate) forming reliable friendships with others and meeting people in your classes and major (I need to make a macro for that phrase, considering all the times I've had to type it, especially as of late).</p>

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It's funny, Vail. Sometimes I agree with you, sometimes I don't. But some of the things you say make you sound just as naive and scared as the rest of us.

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<p>Hey, same to you, pal, we're all different human beings, aren't we? In the future, though, please don't make such huge illogical jumps about what not wanting to marry means (I'm referring to your 3rd and 4th paragraphs, the first 2 were about our differences of opinion about marriage, and heck, that's fine with me, thats what message boards are for, aren't they?), I've had to deal with this same line of 'logic' from others too many times.</p>

<p>Vail, considering how time you put into these type of threads, it seems like you need to work some things out. I mean just looking at your last post, man look how much time you spent analyzing everything and being so defensive. I pose a simple question and you bring up extreme topics like prostitution. Sex is normal. Without sex, your parents wouldn't have made you and you wouldn't be here. You need to take a chill pill. Sure you may be rich later on but boy will you be lonely. I wonder how your social skills are. Ever seen the movie "40 Year Old Virgin"? Funny movie. I wonder how you are around other guys too or maybe you just stay at home spending all your time on the computer.</p>

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Vail, considering how time you put into these type of threads, it seems like you need to work some things out. I mean just looking at your last post, man look how much time you spent analyzing everything and being so defensive. I pose a simple question and you bring up extreme topics like prostitution. Sex is normal. Without sex, your parents wouldn't have made you and you wouldn't be here. You need to take a chill pill. Sure you may be rich later on but boy will you be lonely. I wonder how your social skills are. Ever seen the movie "40 Year Old Virgin"? Funny movie. I wonder how you are around other guys too or maybe you just stay at home spending all your time on the computer.

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<p>Dude, did you even read his last post?</p>

<p>Yeah I did.</p>

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Dude, did you even read his last post?

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<p><em>sigh</em> He probably didn't ThinMan...I typed most of the below post while I was offline anyhow, so I might as well copy and paste it here...</p>

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Vail, considering how time you put into these type of threads, it seems like you need to work some things out. I mean just looking at your last post, man look how much time you spent analyzing everything and being so defensive. I pose a simple question and you bring up extreme topics like prostitution. Sex is normal. Without sex, your parents wouldn't have made you and you wouldn't be here. You need to take a chill pill. Sure you may be rich later on but boy will you be lonely. I wonder how your social skills are. Ever seen the movie "40 Year Old Virgin"? Funny movie. I wonder how you are around other guys too or maybe you just stay at home spending all your time on the computer.

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<p>My last post wasn't directed towards you, I responded to your mess earlier. Of course, if I were in your position, I'd probably want to forget that that post ever occurred either...</p>

<p>It's always funny how people come on message boards and then blast everyone there for being 'nerds' or whatever.</p>

<p>Face it tnn, you're spending your time on message boards on a Friday, you're probably not as popular as you put on. So either get over yourself and leave us be, or stop running around calling every us unpopular or whatever because you're here too.</p>

<p><em>sigh</em> kids these days...</p>

<p>Furthermore, I didn't spend a lot of time analyzing your JOAP (joke-of-a-post), that was only a couple of paragraphs. I typed a lot to jaso9n2, someone who I think can read my post and come up with something substantially more than 'you're a virgin, huh-huh'.</p>

<p>You pose a 'simple question'! Hah! What a joke, now its a 'simple question' because I quickly shot it down and proved to you that it was meaningless. I had to bring up 'extreme topics' (they are only extreme when I mention them) like prostitution to prove a point: that your question STUNK. Heh heh, you make me lol, you know that?</p>

<p>My social skills are just fine thank you very much. And I wont be lonely if I stay single in life if I have friends and keep in touch with my family!! Can't some people get that concept through their heads? Staying single does NOT automatically = them never talking or communicating with anyone. </p>

<p>Heh, time spent analyzing eh? Well, tnn, that's part of what message boards are about. The slower paced format of communication means that one can spend a lot of time re-reading a persons insult and decide how to respond to it in the most appropriate manner. In a face-to-face conversation, your little 'when's the last time you got laid' tactic might have had more success, but as you can see, it substantially less successful in a message board environment.</p>

<p>No, I haven't seen the 40 year old virgin movie. I don't watch many movies at the theatres because those aren't what I'm interested in. Not that you'd care, but the last movie I saw in theatres was Superman Returns, and before that, The Chronicles of Narnia, before that? I don't know, either X-Men 1 or Pokemon 2000, whichever came out the latest. Yes, I'm sure that 'the 40 yr old virgin' was a delightfully funny movie, especially to all the under 13 year kids who snuck in to see it at theatres nationwide. I don't feel like discussing the movie for 2 reasons: 1) because I'm feeling a bit of deja vu here (okay, not really, but I have talked about this movie before rather extensively in a pretty good discussion on those anti-marriage message boards I mentioned earlier), and 2) I'd better wrap this up pretty quickly tnn, before you get overwhelmed by my 'analyzing', or some such. In any event, I'll simply say that in my honest opinion, there's probably something wrong with being a 40 year old married virgin, but a 40 year old unmarried virgin? Well, that simply shows some incredible self-control, probably coupled with some good ol' fashioned loathing about the popular 'MTV' culture stuff that I've already parodied (I'd hate to reuse the same joke twice...).</p>

<p>I'm just fine around other people tnn, thanks for asking. I work as a laboratory aide at my school, and that requires the ability to communicate computer programming topics to other people in an understandable way. I did a lot of that last semester, when I was assigned to help a CPSC 100 level lab class, nowadays, since I'm not assigned to that class, I mostly stay in the office, chit-chat with whoever drops by (happens several times per shift, usually), and if I'm really bored or somebody I know is having an interesting conversation outside the door, I'll poke my head out and get involved (as I recently did last Wednesday, IIRC).</p>

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woah, tony, friends, lovers, good times, aren't distractions, they're part of the ride. sure, grades and what not is the most important part of college, but not the only part. learning about yourself and other people is part of the college experience

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<p>Yes, classes are the most important part of college. Everything else is part of the experience but hardly necessary or even essential!</p>

<p>Oh and lay off Vail, personal insults are really quite pathetic. Really. Just pathetic.</p>

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Oh and lay off Vail, personal insults are really quite pathetic. Really. Just pathetic.

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<p>I agree that personal insults are quite pathetic, which is why I generally read over all of my posts (especially my long ones) several times before posting. And for my last post in this topic, I remember pulling out several personal insults that I shouldn't have put in there (along with some unfunny jokes and unclear analogies, etc.). Let's see if any survived the cut, and if so, I'll solemnly apologize for making them, since I don't believe that personal insults should be part of any civilized conversation, including those on message boards. (It would've been nice if you would've quoted what lines of mine you thought were personal assults Tony Montana OST, it would've helped me)</p>

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Furthermore, I didn't spend a lot of time analyzing your JOAP (joke-of-a-post), that was only a couple of paragraphs.

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<p>The rules for the other message boards I participate in do not allow personal insults, but they do allow a person to 'insult' another's post. For example, you're not allowed to call another message board user an 'idiot' (you'd get moderated if you did), but calling another person's post 'idiotic' is fine, since smart people can make idiotic posts. I don't feel particularly comfortable calling anybody's post 'idiotic', but I expressed my feelings about tnn's initial post towards myself (and others) in a way which I felt was appropriate. For this instance, I apologize if my post was taken the wrong way, but I do not apologize for what I was meaning to say -- I felt (and still feel) that tnn's initial post was inappropriate and rather fruitless.</p>

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2) I'd better wrap this up pretty quickly tnn, before you get overwhelmed by my 'analyzing', or some such.

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<p>My post could've done without that phrase, but I'm glad that it wasn't as harsh as I remembered it (I read your post, Tony Montana OST, before leaving, so I was already formulating a response during the trip). I thought that what I said could've been taken as an insult to tnn's intelligence (insulting others' intelligence is very dumb IMHO, and is something that I wouldn't do), and I was fully prepared to apologize for it, but, it appears that I clearly stated in a sort of tongue-in-cheek manner about how tnn might feel if my post went on too long, according to his previous post.</p>

<p>Any disagreements, observations, etc. please be sure to let me know. I'm not in the business of insulting people, whether or not the rules here allow it (I don't know if they do or don't, but I believe that I've certainly had to deal with personal attacks on these boards, and within my first 20 or so posts if I'm not mistaken).</p>

<p>Can we get back to the original point of this thread? I know that sounds very odd coming from a guy (considering the topic), but really, please--this is getting really old. Vail, this is supposed to be a casual, lighthearted thread--your overly formal tone is really getting on my nerves.</p>

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Vail, this is supposed to be a casual, lighthearted thread--your overly formal tone is really getting on my nerves.

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<p>Dost thou thinketh my tone is overly formal?</p>

<p>Seriously though, sorry my tone bothers you (but I will tell you that I do not plan on changing it anytime soon this topic while I have to respond to the types of posts that are directed towards me). Furthermore...you don't have to read my posts. I sometimes skim through posts in topics if they don't interest me and only read the ones that do interest me, I'm sure you can do the same.</p>

<p>I mean, I don't like to ignore posts, but really...post 67 had absolutely nothing to do with the thread's original topic. Whatsoever. The fact that you think that anyone would want to read an analysis of your own post is quite narcissistic. </p>

<p>Anyway, I'm starting to get really annoyed with my girlfriend's mom. And this is a good place to vent because I think it'd be better if my real-life friends didn't always have to be my therapists. Haha. Anyway, back to the point, her mom is nice to me and seems to like me...but the times when she videochat's with her (and I hide and pretend I'm not in the room), the things she says are really unnerving. Like the fact that even though we're together, her mom will still point out guys that she thinks would be good for her. Or when she made a comment that Steph should seek someone with a"similar background" as her (after an anecdote where she was noticing guys in her town who would be good for her). I don't know how much benefit I should give her mom--like whether that was a racial comment (I'm Filipino, she's white), or religious (I'm Catholic, she's Methodist). But oh well. I score my points with them when I can.</p>

<p>But I'm happy...she just got an internship with NIH in my county, meaning she'll be living in an on-campus apartment for the summer. So we'll be a lot closer this summer than we could have been (I'm living on campus this summer for my job too--we live an hour and a half away normally.). :)</p>

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I mean, I don't like to ignore posts, but really...post 67 had absolutely nothing to do with the thread's original topic. Whatsoever. The fact that you think that anyone would want to read an analysis of your own post is quite narcissistic.

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<p>What's your point? You obviously don't like me or my style of posting, so what am I supposed to do? Flame you? Apologize to you? Debate with you? All three options (including the first of which I definitely would not do) would involve more posts. FYI, Post #67 wasn't addressed to you, it was to Tony Montana OST, who seemed to have a problem with one of my previous posts.</p>

<p>Vail, you need to get your dick wet. Seriously.</p>

<p>Anyways, back to the original topic, I'm in a really bad situation in that I am basially seeing 2 girls. I've been dating this one girl since high school (she's a senior now, i'm a soph in college), and is probably my one true, love, but the beginning of this year we decided that the long distance thing just wasn't working out (I'm 11 hours car ride from home) and she'll be going to college next year anyways. We wanted to start dating other people to see if we're really right for each other. Problem is, I started seeing this other girl at school. She's cool, but I'm still in love with my old girlfriend. Now my hometown honey is coming down for a formal and I think my oncampus girl is expecting to go! Damn this is confusing.</p>

<p>Actually Vail I take it back, you're probably the smartest of all of us, this **** gets way too complicated.</p>

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Vail, you need to get your dick wet. Seriously.

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<p>Word. Or go sky diving. Or swim thirty laps in the pool. Something to get you out of your own head. I'd suggest a punch in the face, but I don't know anybody who will do that for you with good intentions.</p>

<p>Hahaha I agree with mightymeals and jaso9. your posts are so annoying but I'm just gonna end my part since I know you have plenty of free time behind your computer to analyze everything in a way that makes no sense if you explain it to a normal person.</p>

<p>college romance..that sounds really difficult. u have studies to do, work to do, magic to duel, men to inspire. where in the world do u get time to culture a love relationship? this is the most difficult part of life for most men.</p>

<p>as for me. i nurture fantasy (not the vulgar kinds that u have when masturbating). i'm in love with the creation of my own imagination. i savour the moment of peace and the moment of passion when reading the illiad or a biography on some great hero like alexander.</p>

<p>what is the motive behind romance in college? to get laid, i presume. but, for me, i disdain women who are sexually attractive. i always look for women who are pretty ina divine sense. since this world has so few of them, i create them in my fantasy</p>

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as for me. i nurture fantasy (not the vulgar kinds that u have when masturbating).

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<p>Um...Ok...</p>

<p>If you are so in love with fantasy and literature, why are you posting on the CC message board?</p>

<p>And btw I try to look for girls that are both physically and mentally attractive. Trust me, they do exist.</p>

<p>Good ol' name-calling and character attacks. Always works when you can't think of anything remotely intelligent to say. Reminds me of the disputes that kids used to have in 5th grade, ah, the memories.</p>

<p>Ok how's this for an educated statement: You are not fulfilling your biological and evolutionary responsibilty and purpose by refusing to marry and pass your genetic information on to your offspring, unless of course you plan on having a child out of wedlock, which is below even me. It's just unfortunate that you need this false sense of superiority to make up for the fact that you are less evolutionarily suited to be human than I am.</p>

<p>Should I even waste my time with that crud? </p>

<p>Toss your flamebait to someone else, this is one Internet poster who isn't biting.</p>

<p>Nice try, though, but you've got much to learn if you want to be a troll on this Internet. 3/10</p>