Colleges that dont factor in Freshman GPA?

<p>Does anyone know them all, or can we get a list going? thanks for all the help cc members...</p>

<p>yeah i want to know to!</p>

<p>I know all UCs don't (UCLA, Berkeley, etc).</p>

<p>Princeton (not sure about this one) / Stanford (100% sure about this one)</p>

<p>as far as I have to add.</p>

<p>Oh, and the UC's. </p>

<p>EDIT: Masochist has already mentioned them; I tend to not read many posts.</p>

<p>they still count in rank though...</p>

<p>bumpity bump bump...</p>

<p>Stanford.
Other Uc schools.</p>

<p>I don't know exacty, all mine look at the grades. Don't forget that it is still counted in Rank, which is close in importance to GPA.</p>

<p>how would college's not see it? your school sends all your grades, not just a portion right? they probably SAY that they disregard freshman grades but just skimming over it can leave an impression</p>

<p>When you said freshman gpa did you mean 9th grade marks? I also want to know if universities calculate all the 4 years or only the 11th and 12th grade.</p>

<p>Correct me if I am wrong, however, I believe that there is a myth that UCs do not consider or factor in 9th grade marks. UCs do factor freshman grades into the decision, made at the end of California students' junior years, as to whether students are considered "Eligible in the local context (ELC)" to be admitted to a UC, and they define ELC as students in the top 4% of their local high school class, and the UCs calculate freshman grades and class rank into that determination, whether the local school defines class rank as a number (e.g. first in their class of 100) or a percentile (in the top 4% of their local class). (There is also a category called "Eligible in the State Context," which includes students in the top 10% of their local high school class.)</p>

<p>Students who are determined to be Eligible in the Local Context are guaranteed admission to a UC, however, they are not guaranteed admission to the UC campus of their choice. I believe the reason the UCs do this is to give an opportunity to the top-performing students at all California high schools (not just at the top-performing high schools) to attend a UC, which is the most competitive tier of the California University System (UCs are the most competitive in terms of admissions, the Cal State University System is generally less competitive). I have heard teachers telling students their freshman grades don't count--they count, and they count at the UCs. It all counts.</p>

<p>sorry for being a noob and all, but what's a UC? i've been seeing this term a lot on this forum and have been wondering what it is..</p>

<p>Thanks for the question. Sometimes we forget that acronyms can be confusing for other readers.</p>

<p>UCs refer to the University of California campuses (Berkeley, UCLA, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Irvine, Davis, Riverside and Merced); they constitute the top tier, and the most competitive campuses in the University of California system. The second tier (and not necessarily in quality) in the UC system are the Cal State Universities, such as Cal State San Luis Obispo, Cal State Long Beach, Cal State Northridge, etc. The third tier are the California Community Colleges, which many students attend for two years, get their Associate degrees, and transfer to UCs. The UCs save a certain number of places for Community College grads who are transferring to the UCs after two years. </p>

<p>I realize that my post above refers to "Eligibility in the State Context" as applying to 10 percent of the highest ranking students at all high schools in the state; I believe the exact percentage is 12.5%.</p>

<p>Thanks for the question. Sometimes we forget that acronyms can be confusing for other readers.</p>

<p>UCs refer to the University of California campuses (Berkeley, UCLA, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Irvine, Davis, Riverside and Merced); they constitute the top tier, and the most competitive campuses in the University of California system. The second tier (and not necessarily in quality) in the UC system are the Cal State Universities, such as Cal State San Luis Obispo, Cal State Long Beach, Cal State Northridge, etc. The third tier are the California Community Colleges, which many students attend for two years, get their Associate degrees, and transfer to UCs. The UCs save a certain number of places for Community College grads who are transferring to the UCs after two years. </p>

<p>I realize that my post above refers to "Eligibility in the State Context" as applying to 10 percent of the highest ranking students at all high schools in the state; I believe the exact percentage is 12.5%.</p>

<p>thanks for the answer!</p>

<p>The University of Michigan doesn't count freshman grades in calculating your GPA.</p>

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<p>Once your completed application is received, we recalculate your GPA into a "Michigan GPA". This is based only on core, academic courses, which include:</p>

<pre><code>* English
* Science
* Mathematics
* Social Science or History
* Foreign Language
* Computer Programming
</code></pre>

<p>Grades are determined using an unweighted 4.0 scale: </p>

<pre><code>* A (including plus or minus ) = 4.0
* B (including plus or minus) = 3.0
* C (including plus or minus) = 2.0
* D (including plus or minus) = 1.0
* E or F = 0.0.
</code></pre>

<p>Freshmen: No extra (GPA) weight is given to Honors, Accelerated, or Advanced Placement courses; however, the difficulty of a student's curriculum is taken into consideration within the admissions process. Additionally, only courses taken 10th and 11th grade are used to calculate the GPA.

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<p>However they may look at your freshman grades for purposes of determining whether there's been and upward or downward trend.</p>

<p>
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The second tier (and not necessarily in quality) in the UC system are the Cal State Universities, such as Cal State San Luis Obispo, Cal State Long Beach, Cal State Northridge, etc.

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Just to clarify, UC and CSU are two separate systems.</p>

<p>Carnegie Mellon University does not.</p>

<p>hi people, this is my first post :)</p>

<p>these colleges may have been said already but im gonna pile them on to 1 list.</p>

<p>1) All of the UC's (ucla, Berkeley, ucsd...ect)
*(for sure about this)</p>

<p>2) Stanford university
*(for sure about this one)</p>

<p>3) Carnegie Mellon university
*(for sure about this one)</p>

<p>4) Princeton university
*(for sure about this one)</p>

<p>5) Michigan universities (Ann harbor,...ect)
*(for sure about this one)</p>

<p>6) university of Southern California
*(for sure that all Californian universities don't care about 9th grade gpa)</p>

<p>7) John Hopkins university
*(for sure about this one), (contacted, they only use 10-12, emphasis on 11-12)</p>

<p>8) Penn State???
*(NOT sure about this one), (contacted, awaiting reply)</p>

<p><strong><em>i will contact other universities, and i will post on to this thread....</em></strong></p>

<p>also keep in mind, that many colleges may see freshman gpa to determine an upward or lower trend. low 9th grade gpa may also affect class rank.</p>

<p>*BIG UC MYTH:</p>

<p>first of all, the uc gpa system works on high school years ONLY and i mean ONLY grades 10-11. the 8 ap class cap is only for eligibility for admission: this mean you cap your gpa with only to determine if you eligible to admit an application to the process, after you see that you are eligible, you may use all of the ap classes during 10-11th grade.</p>

<p>eligibility for UC admission process:</p>

<p>in state: minimum of 3.0 Gpa (weighted)
out state: minimum of 3.4 Gpa (weighted)</p>

<p>Thanks freezo... this information really helps! did you contact those other universities?</p>

<p>freezo, </p>

<p>when you said the minimum for the UC admission out of state was a 3.4 weighted, do you mean a 3.4 weighted NOT including freshman year grades?</p>

<p>thanks in advance. </p>

<p>also, are you sure hopkins doesn't calculate freshman year?</p>