Colleges your child crossed off the list after visiting, schools that moved up on the list. Why?

As this is an up/down thread and not all of our kids can visit until accepted due to travel costs or schedules I thought I’d update on some up/down’s based on college fairs and AO interviews/interactions. While they can’t take the place of actually visiting…they can be very helpful!

Allegheny - Up based on interaction at a CTCL event.

Goucher - Added to the list based on interaction at a CTCL event, significantly up after an AO interview

Ithaca - Down after an AO interview

Juniata- Down and then off based on interaction at CTCL event (and on location).

University of Vermont - Up after an AO interview

Ursinus - Down based on interaction at a CTCL event, moved back up a bit based on an AO discussion at a larger college fair

University of Puget Sound - Added to the list based on a tour while school not in session, moved slightly down based on alumni interaction at a larger college fair.

@porcupine98 You have hit the nail on the proverbial head: The “humanities” as a field of study includes such subjects as languages, literature, history, art, philosophy, theology, rhetoric, etc. A “liberal arts” education is comprised of the humanities, the social sciences, mathematics, and science. Often people use the latter term to mean the former (and more often than not, in an unflattering context).

Schools and programs offering degrees in fields like engineering, nursing, business, law, medicine, etc. provide professional and pre-professional training. They are not part of the liberal arts.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming of college tours…

WVU: 2 separate campuses and terrible town. Just bad. Students and staff nice though

Ohio State: i am a Penn State and my son wanted to visit there for Agriculture. I begrudgingly agreed and it was very nice. Alot of updating and money dedicated to infrastructure. Very nice visit

Colorado State: number one choice for my son. Very laid back, beautiful campus, big but not too big, brand new stadium. Great people. Beautiful. This went to number one after visit last summer. Great Ag program and they are very proud of it. This is what my son will major in.

NC State: My son was really excited to visit here. Nothing special about the campus, people and the dorms were old, run down and very small. We liked the town though.This would be last on his list now.

@homerdog generally speaking it’s the typical talking points that appeal to my daughter about the block plan. As a CC grad I can give her the inside scoop which is helpful since the block plan is such a foreign concept. But overall it really is the general talking points that really appeal to her.

Focus: She likes the idea that all of her attention can be focused on one class at a time, that she won’t have to juggle a test in one class with a paper due in another and lab write ups in yet other classes etc. Also, the block plan motivates students to stay on track, to not periodically “check out” during the semester only to have to cram their way back in.

Class and Field Trips: A class can go off campus and study wherever the professor wants to take the students. The fact that classes last 3.5 weeks means that even if she is in a rough/intense class the light at the end of tunnel is never too far away.

Block Breaks: They are a signature CC experience and they foster that sense of adventure that many CC students seem to share. It’s remarkable where students go, what students do for block breaks (they are limited by 4.5 days and their budget). Students can also chill out and sleep for 4.5 days… it’s their choice.

Professors: They teach one class at a time so students get their undivided attention the entire block. Teaching comes first for these professors, they are “on” 3-5 hours per day five days a week with the same group for the entire block. This isn’t something my daughter is particularly cognizant of as a prospective student, but as a graduate I can attest to the special bond students have with the faculty at CC. Professors have an important presence in the lives of their students, and I do believe it has to do with the way the block plan sets up the educational experience.

I hope this helps, I know the block plan is a foreign concept to most people. Please feel free to PM me with any other questions about Colorado College, I am happy to share my thoughts. I am also aware of the fact this is off topic from the original thread so I am signing off now :slight_smile:

A school that was unfortunately crossed off the list, not because of a visit, is Lawrence University. Everything about it sounds fantastic to my daughter, but then she saw they run on a trimester schedule. She has decided that this is a dealbreaker, because she has a very small group of super close friends who will all be going to schools with the semester system. Even though she knows her social life will expand when she is in college, she hates the idea of having her winter break at a completely different time than her friends. She also figures that, if she is home for the entire month of December, and nobody else is around, she won’t have all that much to do. I have tried to encourage her to apply anyway, as it should be a safety for her, and then if it comes down to choosing between safety schools we could go visit and perhaps she would fall in love with it and not care so much about the schedule. But she completely refuses, and I have to respect that.

The reality is that, even if she stays close friends with her high school buddies over time, after freshman year many might not necessarily be around home for their winter breaks due to jobs, internships, travel, study abroad, January short terms, other friends or relationships, etc.

@IBviolamom my D considered Lawrence but eliminated it because of the schedule. It seemed like a great fit for her, but the late start was a deal-breaker. Oh well.

@IBviolamom At least she figured it out before she applies. One third of my D15’s applications were to quarter-system schools. It wasn’t until we visited Lawrence (her #2 choice) in February after she was admitted that she said “what’s that?” when I said something about the quarter system. Turns out that was a deal-breaker for her. Let me tell you, getting to Appleton from Los Angeles in February was not the easiest, but it sure beat putting that deposit down and then having her decide she couldn’t go there, or worse, having to transfer.

@Booajo @1518mom Isn’t it too bad? Because the school sounds fantastic. Still trying to find a good Midwestern LAC safety school that doesn’t have a teeny tiny population of under 1500.

Except students who have sports, jobs, student activities, etc. Oh, and monetary considerations. Not everyone can just take off for 2 weeks, and those who can’t may have a more limited class selection.

I think one negative would be that it isn’t as easy to have a ‘light’ course load for a semester (or the equivalent time period)

Many coaches are very flexible if a student wants to take a course that requires some time away - maybe not a whole block or two weeks in season but if it is a couple days, it often is not a problem. Out of season, it is definitely doable. With the exception of men’s hockey and women’s soccer which are D1, we’re talking D3 sports here. Coaches know kids go to CC because of the block program and the opportunities. Most students can make it work. Some blocks every year that require travel expenses are subsidized by the college each year so money isn’t an issue, although that is not true for all blocks. Some blocks that offer off campus travel stay regionally using off campus facilities owned by the college, so again, additional cost wouldn’t be an issue.

@IBviolamom Have you looked at College of Wooster as an alternative to Lawrence? Undergrad population is just over 2,000.

@IBviolamom there’s also St. Olaf, Denison, Ohio Wesleyan

Ruled out Wooster after a visit. St. Olaf is out because of religion. Thinking about Denison and I’ll check out OWU, thanks!

We visited Wooster yesterday, and my D loved it. Wooster originally didn’t make her list because she wasn’t keen on its location, but she decided to look at it after she visited a friend there a few weeks ago and discovered that she enjoyed the look and environment of it. Even though she knew then that she liked the physical aspect of the campus and what she had read and heard about the college, she came away from her tour/lunch/interviews much more impressed than she thought she was going to be.

D’s educational background is exploratory and student-led, so she loves the intellectual curiosity that is evident and encouraged there in and outside of classes and in the Independent Studies (which is sort of a misnomer since each student works closely with a faculty member on a topic chosen by the student). She also is enthusiastic about the collaboration and support between students and between students and faculty that she saw and has heard about there.

It was a wonderful, highly personal visit (which made my H keep wondering how they can spend so much personal attention on each prospective student, lol) and D has loved talking about it since!

I come to this thread often to search for feedback on schools we are thinking of and find it very useful, so I thought it’s time I contributed a little!

My daughter is interested in engineering, and would like to stay in the Northeast with a cute town or city close enough to walk to. My husband and I are even more interested in schools that either give a lot of merit or are part of the tuition exchange program (I work at a participating college), so that’s where a lot of the schools of her list have come from. Most of my observations are pretty shallow :slight_smile: and have more to do with the feel of the campus and area and less to do with the actual programs, since I know nothing about engineering and all of the programs sounded pretty cool to me.

Duquesne – Our first real college visit, so we had zero expectations. We all loved it. Loved the location. It’s in the middle of the city, but yet felt like a little quiet oasis - separated and quiet. Kind of the best of both worlds we thought. Pittsburgh seems like an awesome city. We visited this school when my daughter was interested in Physician Assistant programs and if she had remained interested in becoming a PA, she definitely would have considered applying here (they have a 5 year BS/Master’s program), although I did notice their equipment and classrooms were on the older side. The only negative for her was the religious aspect (which could be a positive to many). She’s not applying as they don’t seem to have much for engineering.

University of Pittsburgh - Pitt was a little more urban than we had pictured in our heads, with very busy streets running throughout a sort of widespread campus. A million large tours were taking place at the same time. The dorms we visited (the Towers?) seemed claustrophobic– not the rooms so much as the hallways. My daughter found it to all be a bit overwhelming. Probably didn’t help that we just came from the polar opposite type of campus (Duquesne). On the plus side – the architecture of the buildings are beautiful, they seem to have a million cool classes and majors, awesome football games to go to, and all of the students we talked to love it there. It’s in a great part of the city – seemed to be much more to see and do immediately surrounding the campus than the area around Duquesne. She applied as she thinks the positives were definitely worth another visit.

Muhlenburg – Pretty campus, nice old architecture, nice rec center and cafeteria. They seemed to have a great theater program. The negatives for us - it came across as too small of a school and there is no town close center close enough to walk to, as far as we could tell. We asked the tour guide if people ever go into town and she said sometimes they take the bus to WalMart or the supermarket. It’s just not what she’s looking for. She’s not applying.

Lafayette – Very pretty, impressive campus. It’s a pretty small school, numbers-wise, but seems larger when you are on campus. The town of Easton seems nice to me – full of small restaurants and shops, but I think it is a little bit of a hike. I got the impression that our guide rarely went into town, well because he said that. The big selling point for my daughter - they have a dog that students can “check-out” for 30 minutes at a time, or something like that. She may be applying, but it may be a bit too small for her.

University of Delaware – My daughter loved the feel of this school. It’s a traditional campus with a cute main street that runs through the middle of it. The students walking around seemed very casual and down to earth – lots of sweats and jeans. It’s one of the largest schools we visited, but didn’t feel overwhelming. They have a large stadium and I think the football games are popular to go to, but it wasn’t an over-riding theme. Lots of majors to choose from, large study-abroad program. This was one of her favorites - she’s applying.

Princeton – Gorgeous campus, slightly dark and wood-sy. Idyllic college-town. Lots of name-dropping during the tour, as far as instructors and guest speakers, etc. Really cool traditions like the eating clubs. My daughter loved it. She’ll apply, knowing the odds are extremely slim.

Worcester Polytechnic Institute – Very pretty compact campus with mostly older architecture. Dorm rooms we saw were dated but huge! Natural triples and quads seem to be common. They have 7-week quarters instead of semesters, and a big emphasis on large team projects, starting right from freshman year, and on study abroad. All of which were very appealing to my daughter. The neighborhood directly surrounding the school seemed fine – a little boring, a little worn down, but nice enough. One hour train ride into Boston. This was a favorite. She applied.

Northeastern – Modern, urban campus. It appeared to us to be more of an enclosed/traditional campus than Pittsburgh, with most of the campus together on one side of the street. Dorms seemed nice, the co-ops are a huge selling point, as is the city of Boston. Though Northeastern is also very urban, this campus was less overwhelming and more appealing to her then Pitt. That may be because Pitt was one of the first she saw, and Northeastern was one of the last. This is a favorite. She applied.

We also visited RIT, University of Rochester, and Harvard. All of which she liked a lot, but I have already carried on too much here :). She’s basically pretty easy to please. She most likely won’t be applying to U of R since it’s not on the Tuition Exchange list and even with maximum merit would probably be more than we’d like to pay.

@mageecrew - I have two daughters who just went through the TE process and looked at many of the schools you mentioned above. Would be very happy to talk to you via PM if you have any questions.

@mageecrew Thanks for the great write-up. I’m curious why you didn’t consider Lehigh?

Thanks @myjanda! I am sure I’ll be PM’ing you soon…

@stlarenas We did stop and take a walk around Lehigh (they didn’t have any tours available when we were in the area) and were blown away by how gorgeous the campus was. And I know they have a stellar engineering program. I just got a little discouraged afterwards reading about how hard it is to get merit aid there. Plus my husband read that it was known to be kind of a rich kid party school. Not saying those things are true but it ended up just fading from our minds, and probably because my daughter didn’t get a tour, it wasn’t really on her mind either.

Are you very familiar with Lehigh? What do you think of it?

@mageecrew Lafayette and Lehigh are both on my D’s short list - but they are both very far from us…and we won’t visit either unless accepted. Based on research she is leaning towards Lafayette too, but it seems whenever anyone talks about one they compare it to the other. So I thought it was interesting you didn’t mention it. I also thought Lehigh had the better engineering program of the two.