Colorado and Washington Legalize Pot, Putting Colleges in a Bind

<p>To contradict bclintonk, there is weed all over the place. I wasn’t alive in the 70’s so I can’t tell you if it’s more or less prominent compared to then, but it certainly is prevalent now. Now, I will agree that it’s not like Ann Arbor has turned into some stoner zombie apocalypse city. </p>

<p>Regardless of how easy it is to get, it’s still easier to go to a store and buy something than to call someone up and arrange a time to meet (not sure if this is what the reality will be though - I am not familiar with the Colorado and Washington laws). Ease of access will increase use.</p>

<p>“Ease of access will increase use.”</p>

<p>If all the studies that conclude that mj is no worse than alcohol in terms of health problem are true then maybe that is not that bad. I am sure that probably alcohol consumption is higher now than when during the prohibition. The plus side is that we no longer have to jail millions of people that recreationally use and distribute it and thousands people no longer have to die and lots of money and resources used every year in the war preventing the stuff to get to the consumers. And lastly, money actually can be had from taxing legal distribution of it. Which one is the lesser of the two bad situations?</p>

<p>I don’t get the consternation over this. Of course it will be illegal to drive while stoned, just like it’s illegal to drive while drunk–even though alcohol itself is not illegal.</p>

<p>The Seattle police department just put together a FAQ about their new policies towards pot, incidentally. Very interesting!</p>

<p>[Marijwhatnow</a>? A Guide to Legal Marijuana Use In Seattle | SPD Blotter](<a href=“http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2012/11/09/marijwhatnow-a-guide-to-legal-marijuana-use-in-seattle/]Marijwhatnow”>Marijwhatnow? A Guide to Legal Marijuana Use In Seattle - SPD Blotter)</p>

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<p>“And lastly, money actually can be had from taxing legal distribution of it.” </p>

<p>I have long suspected that it is the potential revenue stream from marijuana that has led to our government’s receptiveness to legalization. The U.S. has gotten itself into quite a predicament on the the fiscal front, and is desperate to find ways to meet it’s obligations. While I consider myself to be a moderate liberal, I do have reservations about us heading in this direction as a nation. </p>

<p>Now,more than ever, we will have to impress upon our teenagers the importance of independent thinking, personal responsibility and the concept of moderation.</p>

<p>When you read the article posted in #43, the reality of this really smacks you in the face. A person will most likely be able to walk into a convenience store and purchase marijuana. On some level that just really startles me. Never really thought about the “distribution” end of it. </p>

<p>Article is actually pretty funny - the arbitrary reference to a “magic show” just struck me as bizarre.</p>

<p>^I would agree if that was the only thing that is enticing about legalization. But then that is actually not at all the case. I also think of myself as a moderate, you have to again look at all the angles and issues as a whole and decide.</p>

<p>The University of Washington (which is in Seattle) has a no-smoking policy for the entire campus, BTW. This includes outdoors. It would be silly to strike it off a college list because pot is now legal in Washington, IMO. Their lungs will suffer a lot less than they would on many “substance free” campuses that have kids lighting up cigarettes on the steps of every building.</p>

<p>So for those “in the know”, wondering what “SuperSkunk” might be (referenced in the article in #43).</p>

<p>During D’s college orientation…at one particular meeting where parents were present…one parent asked how her daughter will get her medical marijuana prescription filled at the campus health center. The admins response was perfect IMHO…Um, well we will be following Federal law since it supercedes State laws so your daughter will have to make other arrangement. Arrangements which will include not ‘taking her medicine’ anywhere on campus.</p>

<p>As a side note…on the major freeway which we use on a daily basis, one which winds its way through a mountain pass…the summit store now proudly displays a sign with big letters “HERBS $125.00/oz”. That is some pretty expensive basil :eek: It is reassuring to know that if one runs out of ones medical marijuana while driving to or from work or while doing the kiddle carpool run, one can stop to refill the 'prescription"* at the summit.</p>

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<li>prescriptions available via phone consultations - check back pages of all local free newspapers for information.</li>
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<p>Oh. and as goes CA so goes the country…thanks to those other State for joining us on the ride ;). I wonder how the interstate commerce clause affects this product…</p>

<p>So in Washington, the state will license dealers to deal to those over 21, but will leave the kids’ market to the illegal dope peddlers.</p>

<p>The recently passed state ballot initiatives don’t override the federal laws regulating pot use. Before anyone overreacts about what states they think their son/daugther should avoid attending college in, most likely these ballot initiatives will end up as a federal court battle before anything ever changes at the state level.</p>

<p>"So in Washington, the state will license dealers to deal to those over 21, but will leave the kids’ market to the illegal dope peddlers. "</p>

<p>Not sure what your point is? This is worse than before for those under 21 in that … ?</p>

<p>Just that the main users of pot are under 21, and the laws do little for them.</p>

<p>Really? Most/main users of pot are under 21? I’d be interested in seeing where you got that from. </p>

<p>And I think that would change. As mentioned above, if it’s legal over 21, people would be far less willing to sell to those under 21 if it’s legal to sell to those above. Same with alcohol.</p>

<p>“If all the studies that conclude that mj is no worse than alcohol in terms of health problem are true then maybe that is not that bad.”</p>

<p>Are there still a lot of reputable people who think it’s relatively harmless?</p>

<p>Data from the national Behavioral Health Surveillance Survey.</p>

<p>mini, could you send me a link? I don’t see anything with that specific name.</p>

<p>Actually, the National Survey on Drug Use and Health will do you better: <a href=“https://nsduhweb.rti.org/[/url]”>https://nsduhweb.rti.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You’ll also find surveillance data at the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University:
<a href=“http://www.casacolumbia.org/templates/NewsRoom.aspx?articleid=692&zoneid=51[/url]”>http://www.casacolumbia.org/templates/NewsRoom.aspx?articleid=692&zoneid=51&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>and the granddaddy of them all: Monitoring the Future (University of Michigan): <a href=“http://www.monitoringthefuture.org/[/url]”>http://www.monitoringthefuture.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>What do you mean by doing very little for them (under 21)? Surely, you are not advocating that it should be legal also for under 21, other than that, what else can the law do?</p>

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<p>With limited legalization in a few states, will there now be a business opportunity for young entrepreneurs to purchase pot there and then compete inter-state with drug-lord “imports” on the basis of price and quality? Tagline: “Buy American grown!”</p>