Colorado Boulder vs Cal Poly vs Case Western

Hi, I am an international student who, after receiving several acceptances, has finalized his list down to this final 4, each for different reasons. I have applied to civil engineering for all 4 universities, and also have a passion for architectural engineering which is not available in CWRU. Moreover, I am currently wait-listed at Purdue but after speaking to admissions office and providing them with my scores, and looking at their wait-list statistics I will say I have high chances of admittance, considering their low yield rate. If admitted to Purdue, I will attend there 100%. Meanwhile, I need to send my deposit to one of the other three schools and I am not sure which one. Here are my opinions on each one.

Colorado Boulder: The most expensive on the list but by far the most respected in civil engineering nationally and internationally (I have to consider international reputation as the chances of working in the US after grad is slim). They excel in civil engineering in particular, as well as Boulder located in the most beautiful college town in the US, with numerous activities to participate in daily. Also - Division 1 which is a plus because I love attending sporting games. However, not sure if the final cost of $58,000 is worth it, and I will have to take approximately $40,000-50,000 in loans over the 4 years.

CWRU: Definitely the most renowned and prestigious university overall from the four; however, is not particularly known for its engineering programs let alone civil engineering, bar Biomedical Engineering. It costs $55,000, but I estimated that after participating in the Co-op program I can reduce $10,000 from each year with the income generated. International reputation is lesser than Boulder’s and Purdue’s. However, Division 3, and I’ve heard pretty crap reviews about Cleveland and its crime and safety.

Cal Poly: The most technical of the schools above (which I love) and also the cheapest. However, my major concern with Cal Poly is that it is not recognized at all outside of the US, perhaps even so outside of the West. Yet, it is extremely recognized for its civil and architectural engineering programs, and their graduates are highly respected and sought after, and boast one of the highest starting salaries in the country (top 20 ROI and Median Salaries). So will this regional reputation affect my future if I do not work in the west coast? Another problem I am concerned with is the lack of diversity in the student body; as an international Arab student I feel I might be discriminated against and be subject of racism, and that is definitely a big no for me! Is such the case in Cal Poly. The town of San Luis Obispo is beautiful, secluded with lots of beautiful scenery and college students, and not too far off from LA, which is a bonus. It is the cheapest option, only $37,000, and Division 1, with soccer being a very popular sport there which coincidentally happens to also be my favorite sport.

Overall, I feel like Colorado and Cal Poly will offer me the greatest college experience and I will truly enjoy my time there, with Colorado having an edge in its academic reputation that I am not sure is worth the extra $20,000 and debt. On the other hand, CWRU reviews tend to describe it as a static campus with not much to do, but its academic reputation and ranking are by far the best from all 4. This is my dilemma, academics vs experience? And if experience, is Colorado worth it?

Sorry for the long post, desperately needing help! Thank you very much

PS: I am more of a party student than an academic student; don’t usually hit the books till finals, and regard the social scenes of a university as one of the biggest indicators to my decision.

I am going to be a student at CU Boulder this fall and I (obviously) would recommend Boulder. In addition to its civil engineering prestige, I strongly believe this will be the best college experience. It is a large school with tons of clubs and activities on and off campus. Boulder is an amazing city with lots of culture and young people. In addition, Boulder doesn’t have a big city feel, which I like. The architecture and flat irons make for a gorgeous campus with an environment I feel to be quite comfortable. CU also has fantastic facilities and is a much safer town than San Luis Obispo and Cleveland. Keep in mind, CU is expensive, but you get what you pay for. The buildings are all in awesome shape and most of the dorms have been recently renovated. I think Boulder would be welcoming of an International Arab student. Many of my friends at Colorado State University befriended Arab students and they were generally accepted. That said, Boulder is more liberal and progressive than Fort Collins, so I highly doubt racism would be an issue at CU. CU also has a great party scene if you’re into that. If not, there is plenty of recreational and academic opportunity to pursue. Hope to see you this fall in Boulder! Sko Buffs!

@akylam thank you so much for your advice. Definitely relieves some stress knowing that Boulder is very inclusive and progressive. Will undoubtedly take your advice into consideration - thank you!